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TPS54360: Why does it have overshoot ?

Part Number: TPS54360
Other Parts Discussed in Thread: TPS54361

Dear all

     The output of TPS54360 connect a 470uF+470uF+1000uF capacitance, when power on ,there is 1V  overshoot on the output. Why ?

     If I take off one 470uF capactitance, only 470uF+1000uF, the overshoot disappear.

  • Hi Went,

    It could have something to do with the soft-start time? What frequency are you running at?
    The internal soft-start time is

    Soft-start time fSW = 500 kHz, 10% to 90% 2.1 ms

    Soft-start time fSW = 2.5 MHz, 10% to 90% 0.42 ms

     

    Try to reduce frequency and see if it helps.

     

    Thanks

    -Arief

  • Hello Went,
    It is likely your converter is hitting current limit trying to charge the load capacitance on startup.
    With highly capacitive loads such as yours, a chip with adjustable soft-start time would be better controlled.
    However the soft-start of the TPS54360 is internal, so the only other option is to tune your compensation network.

    In the TPS54360 product page click on the "Tools&Software" tab and scroll all the way to the bottom. In the "Software" section download the "TPS54360 and TPS54361 Family Design Excel Tool." Input your design in the excel tool, and use the combined regulator and load capacitance in place of the output capacitance. This tool will automatically recalculate your Rcomp, Ccomp and Chf values, and the new network should help with your overshoot.

    If you have any problems please let us know.
    Regards,
    -Orlando
  • Dear Orlando & Arief

          Thanks your help.

          In your opinion, I have some question :

          1.Why would be higher voltage in the current limit ?

          2.Why adjustable soft-start time can be better controlled ?What's the principle?

  • Went,
    I assume in #1 you mean capacitance instead of voltage.
    A higher capacitor will need more charge than a small capacitor to reach the same voltage.
    In typical use, the TPS54360 has output capacitance ~100uF and our control loop is tuned for that.
    When you add almost 2000uF, it will require more charge to reach the output voltage and more charge = more current.
    The inductor current increases to charge the output into regulation, but inductors do not like change in current.
    What happens is when your capacitive load reaches regulation, your inductor is still trying to supply current to the load.
    This current is basically "forced" into the capacitor, and that leads to the output voltage overshoot problem you have.

    Soft start controls how fast the chip increases the output voltage, and if you can slow down the voltage rise time you can limit the inductor current during startup to reduce overshoot problems.

    Hope this helps,
    -Orlando
  • Dear Orlando
    Thank you for your detail explain.
    So,how to select the capacitance? The datasheet said the minimum capacitance,but there is not maximum capacitance. Could you tell me how to select the maximum capacitance ?
  • Went,

    We usually dont specify a maximum output capacitance.

    A well controlled soft start eliminates overshoot on startup.

    However in your case you cannot tune soft start, so you will have to tune part of the control loop on the COMP pin.

    Please use the "TPS54360 and TPS54361 Family Design Excel Tool" as described in my first post to recalculate the compensation network.

    -Orlando