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TPS53355: Input variation characteristic

Part Number: TPS53355

Hi

My customer has question.

Customer confirmed that the input fluctuation characteristics of TPS 53355 change with temperature.
Is this phenomenon caused by TPS53355?

3581.TPS53355.pdf

Best Regard

T Kishi

  • Hi T Kishi-san,

    Let me look into it further.  I have not experience this behavior before.  In the mean time, would you please send the schematic?  Would you also send some switch node waveforms during before, during, and after this VOUT change happened? Does this behavior occurs at room temperature?

    Thank you.

    Amnat

  • Hi Newey

    Thank you for reply.
    This is the circuit diagram. (Basically, the constant of EVM is changed)

    TP53355.pdf
    The voltage fluctuation fluctuates slightly at about 8.5 V at 25 °C.
    When the voltage fluctuation is 25 ° C.
    At -40 ° C, it varies greatly with Vin = 5 V to 11 V

    Regard

    T Kishi

  • Hi T Kishi-san,
    Thank you for the schematic. We will need to look into this further.
    Thank you for your patience.
    Amnat
  • Hi T Kishi-san,
    Unfortunately, we cannot start this evaluation until mid-next week due to the man power constraint. Please be patient and we will get to the bottom of this.
    Thank you so much for understanding.
    Amnat
  • Hi Newey

    Thank you for responding.
    I and the customer feel that there seems to be a cause for ripple Injection circuit.
    So I have a question.
    1. Datasheet P24, "N" in equation (11) is a consideration of component variability?
    2. [Ripple Injection Voltage <50 mV] is recommended, but is it necessary to keep this? If you need to protect, you have to set a very severe constant.

    Please continue to cooperate in solving problems.

    Best Regard
    T Kishi

  • Hi Newey

    Thank you for reply.
    The red frame is a snubber circuit.
    Even without this circuit, the phenomenon does not change.
    Because it occurs particularly conspicuously at low temperature, can you check it?
    As for equation (11), is it not necessary to consider errors of L other than DC Bias?

    Considering the error of the worst case of each part in equation (11), when trying to keep the ripple injection voltage at 50 mV,
    the ripple injection voltage becomes about 100 mV in the normal case.
    How should we determine constants?

    Regard
    T Kishi

  •  Hi T Kishi-san,

    1. Yes, the N value is higher because the effective output capacitance is reduced with higher DC bias.

    2. We usually inject about 15mV ripple to the FB with all ceramics output capacitors.

    One question, what is the purpose of this circuit (red circle)?

    Thanks,

    Amnat

  • Hi T Kishi-san,

    Thanks you for the clarification.  We are in the process of testing your condition now.  We'll let you know as soon as the data is available.  As for equation 11, the N coefficient of 4 has already taken the L and Cout variation into account.  The higher N value gives you enough margin for stability.

    Thank you.

    Amnat

  • Hi Newey

    Thank you for your response.

    If we assume that the ripple injection voltage is about 100 mV,

    we think that it relates to the accuracy of the output voltage, but what about other problems?

    Regard

     T Kishi

  • Hi T Kishi-san,
    Assuming the ripple injection is about 100mV, the stability may be affected since your cross over frequency may be lower at the potential lower phase boost. The transient response will be slower as well. Also, you may hit the PGOOD threshold with large ripple injection. I suggest you test this on the bench to rule out your concerns.
    Thank you.
    Amnat
  • Hi T Kishi-san,

    Here is the data we've taking without the snubber circuit.  Your schematic was duplicated on out web-orderable EVM with the ripple injection.  We do not see the same behavior as your.  Please let us know if there is anything else we can help you with.

    Thank you.

    Amnat