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UCC38C44: UCC38C44

Part Number: UCC38C44

Dear Sir,

I am using UCC38C44 controller for  my fly back designs currently i am  facing Problem with Flyback  switching at light load and maximum voltage. 

My design is from 100V to 460VDC input 

Output Power maximum is 17W

Switching frequency is 30Khz., L = 1.95mH,

Rt =10K,

CT =3.3nF,Switching frequency measured =28Khz

Vaux =17V,

Compensator R=270K,C1=10nF,C2=10pF

Current sense resistor = 1.25R.

Switching is proper upto 350VDC input but after this voltage the switching waveform tends to shift like jitter and the pulse width continuously varies. 

One solution which i got was to increase the Ct value to 4.7nF which reduces the frequency to 20Khz and the system works better

Should i design my smps in deep discontinuous mode like keeping Krf = 1.25 or above ? is my design proper

Guide me to make my system stable at full range voltage.

  • Hi BHARATH PRABHU,
    Using peak current mode control with a wide input voltage/load range can have issues.
    If the ton time gets very small, the turn-on current spike can mean at around the peak current you want to turn-off the current sense signal is still falling rather than rising.
    It is possible by decreasing the operating frequency you are pushing up the peak current at which to turn-off and moving away from the turn-on current spike.
    It would help me greatly to diagnose the problem if you could send scope traces of the COMP signal and the current sense signal when it is working fine (at low input voltage) and when it is not working fine (high input voltage).
    It would also help if you could send me a schematic with values. If you do not want to post this on a public forum please send it to my Email address : j-leisten@ti.com.
    Thanks
    Joe Leisten
  • Thanks for your reply ,ok will send all the details to your mail id 

  • Hi BHARATH PRABHU,
    From your CS pin waveforms it looks like my first guess was correct.
    At high input voltage the TON period is so short that the turn-on current spike has not finished before the required peak current has been exceeded. This is not a stability problem in the classical sense and will not be solved by adjusting your compensation values.
    If you are set on peak current mode control the two choices for solving this problem are as follows:
    1) Increase the magnetizing inductance of the transformer. This will increase the TON duration.
    2) Decrease the switching frequency. This also has the effect of increasing the TON duration.
    I hope this resolves your issue.
    Thanks
    Joe Leisten
  • I calculate L as L= Vinmin*Dutymax(0.45 From data sheet)^2/(2*Fswitch*Pin*Krf)

    Is it proper? What Krf is good for my wide voltage range operation

    100-400VDC and

    300-900VDC

    2) Decrease the frequency :Should i design the SMPS for 30Khz and select RTCT for 20Khz?

    3) Can u share simple methods to select compensation components for stability 

    As u can share some example conditions of instability and share the solution for the same by increaing or decreasing the compensation values

  • L= (Vinmin*Dutymax(0.45 From data sheet))^2/(2*Fswitch*Pin*Krf)
    Correction
  • Hi BHARATH PRABHU,
    Could you please send your schematic to my Email address.
    In your Email you mentioned that you have sent a schematic, but I only found scope pictures.
    Also could you please advise which document you have taken this Equation from.
    Thanks
    Joe Leisten
  • Hi BHARATH PRABHU,
    Sorry for the delay. Could you please supply the transformer turns ratios.
    The reflected output voltage is an important parameter in looking at the required magnetizing inductance value.
    Thanks
    Joe Leisten
  • Pri turns =90T

    AUX turns = 19T

    NP/NAUX = 4.7

    27V o/p turns = 29T

    10V turns = 12T

    10VE turns = 12 T           

    iS MY SCHEMATICS PROPER PLEASE CONFIRM AT THE EARLIEST                   

  • CAN U SHARE ME THE EXACT FORMULA FOR INDUCTANCE CALCULATION
  • Hi BHARATH PRABHU,
    I have responded by Email with the inductance calculation. It is much easier to send attachments by Email than on this forum.
    Thanks
    Joe Leisten
  • Hi BHARATH PRABHU,
    I studied your schematic once more. It may be that you have a different control problem.
    Please could you advise how much power is being drawn from each of your outputs.
    In particular I need to know how much power is consumed by the 17VSMPS rail vs the 27VE and 8Vx rails.
    There can be a problem associated with controlling a lightly loaded rail with the intent that this will control the output on other more heavily loaded rails.
    Please note this is not the same as a Primary Side Regulated controller which senses the actual output voltage via an Aux winding as opposed to controlling the voltage on the Aux rail. These are not the same thing at all.
    Thanks
    Joe Leisten
  • Hi BHARATH PRABHU,
    I have had no response from you for a while, and am therefore going to mark this post as closed. Please feel free to open another post if you feel there are questions left to answer.
    Thanks
    Joe Leisten