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UCC28950: How to decide delay time and how to work in CS, ADEL and ADELEF of UCC28950

Part Number: UCC28950

Dear TI member,

We have questions of UCC28950

1. How to check CS, ADEL and ADELEF voltage for delay time? (Vrms? Vpeak? or other point?)

=>Please help to teach us how to check the voltage for delay time.

2. If Duty is only changed, how do CS and ADEL change ? And delay time also chage? (Peak voltage of CS is not changed. And RAB and KA don't change also.)

If delay time is changed by changing Duty, Please teach us why the delay time change.

If we don't change RAB and KA, TABSET (delay time) depend on CS voltage from UCC28950 datasheet.

We changed only duty on our module and CS peak voltage keep same valtage. But the delay time is changed then.

So we want to know whether Duty affect the delay time. (We want to know why the delay time is changed.)

Thanks

  • Hello User

    The adaptive delays set by the resistors at the ADEL and ADELEF pins use an average version of the CS signal to determine the extent to which the delay is modified, there is an internal RC filter in the IC that does this. This means that the delay will be function of the duty cycle - as you have observed. It will also be a function of the switching frequency

    Regards
    Colin
  • Dear Colin

    Thank you so much for your answer.

    I have new questions.

    What is "an average version of the CS signal"?
    Is this Vrms of the CS signal?
    If KA is 0.5 (RA and RAEFHI are same value), ADEL pin check 0.3V when Vrms of CS pin is 0.6V.
    Is this right?

    Would you help us to explain the internal circuit details of ADEL and ADELEF?
    (we can find the internal RC filter of CS pin at Figure 38. DCM Function on datasheet.
    We want to see the internal circuit of ADEL and ADELEF.)

    Thank you and Best regards
  • hello User

    The signal at the ADEL and ADELEF pins is passed through an internal filter and this is used to generate a current proportional to the average value of the voltage at the pin. This is then used to modify the delay programmed by the resistor at the DELAB, DELCD and DELEF pins according tho the characteristics shown in the data sheet.

    I'm afraid I cannot share the internal circuitry of the ADEL / ADELEF pins without a Non Disclosure Agreement in place. Please contact your local TI office or FAE engineer if you wish to pursue this further.

    The internal circuit is a simple averaging filter. An RMS calculation would be more complex to implement.

    You are correct - if KA is 0.5 then the ADEL pin would be at 0.3V when the CS pin is at 0.6V.

    Most applications for the PSFB run at a constant input/output conversion ratio so the duty cycle is more or less constant.

    Regards

    Colin

  • Dear Colin,

    Thank you for your strong support.

    I will contact local TI FAE.

    Sorry, I have a question.
    Is the signal at the CS pin used to generate a current proportional to the average value of the voltage at the pin also?
    or to the peak value of the voltage?

    (I understood CS have an internal filter, I want to know how to check the voltage for delay time at CS.
    mean, after through an internal filter, Which point does CS detector of inside of IC check? the waveform of the peak value? or the average value?)

    Thank you and Best regards
  • Hello User

    As noted in  section 7.3.14 in the Data Sheet, the signal at the CS pin is fed through a 30ns time constant to provide some leading edge blanking and is then added to the RAMP signal (for slope compensation) and then sent to the PWM and Cycle-by-Cycle comparators. There is no filtering applied to the CS signal so that the comparators will trip when the peak value of the signal reaches their respective thresholds (COMP-0.85V or 2V). There is a 100ns propagation delay from the CS pin to the outputs. This means that the outputs (OUTx) will change state 100ns after the voltage at the CS pin reaches the comparator thresholds (modified to take account of the 850mV offset and the slope compensation ramp of course).

    The block diagram in Figure 36 is a good representation of the system.

    Regards

    Colin

  • Dear Colin

    Thank you for your answer.
    I understood it.

    Thank you and Best regards