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LM27761: Negative DC converter charge pump noise (impossible to get rid of?)

Part Number: LM27761
Other Parts Discussed in Thread: LM2776

Hi,

We have been developing some sensitive (low noise) RF circuits for radio astronomy receivers and we need to use RF-over-Fibre which is supplied by a company in China.  Unfortunately the company as helpful as they have been, have used a negative DC supply on their daughter boards.  The original -5V chips (LM2776) are very noisy producing 2MHz charge pump spikes which couple into the RF band (50-250MHz).  I designed a DC filter circuit using the LM27761 which should be better for noise.  The circuit is shown below and basically uses a combination of common mode and normal mode chokes.  The ground plane for the LM27761 chip is separated from the analog ground and only couples via chokes.  Unfortunately performing sensitive measurements, we still pick up the spikes although they are dramatically reduced.  We are now in a very difficult position because we need to go into high volume production soon and really need to fix this.  Can anyone say what we are doing wrong.  Is there an alternative TI part we could use to kill this noise?  Help is much appreciated.

Kind regards, Nima

  • Hi user,

    To help you better can you provide your Layout? If this is not sensitive information. Otherwise we will exchange via email.
    I would recommend you as well to follow Layout guidelines in the LM27761 Datasheet. Layout is very important in this topology.

    Can you be a bit more specific regarding the measurements you were performing? Are you observing this spikes at the output of your system only? Can you provide waveforms showing your issue?

    Thank you for reaching out to us.

    Best Regards,

    Dorian
  • Hi user,

    I haven’t heard back from you.
    Have you gathered up information about your request?
    Do you have any follow up questions?
    Otherwise I will assume you were able to resolve your issue. If not, just post a reply below .

    Thank you,

    Dorian