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TPS2543: Operation Mode for dynamically adjust the current limit

Part Number: TPS2543
Other Parts Discussed in Thread: TPS2544

My customer is willing to use TPS2543 in a new project, but he has some requirements in the design, so I need your help to find the best way to address this requirements w/ TPS2543. Basically my customer will set TPS2543 to charge at 1.5A or more in CDP mode. During a transient surge that can occur, he needs to reduce the charge current of TPS2543 to zero dynamically and very quickly, while keeping the data lines communicating.

 Sounds like the customer will be in the mode S0 --> CTL1/2/3=1 ; ILIM_SEL=1 -->ILIM_HI as per table 2 of datahseet.

So, we think in two possibilities to address this requirement:

 1-     Based on ds pag 24, sounds like it is needed to go to SDP non charging port (SDP2).

  1. Is this assumption correct?
  2. Although it is stated that the port would go to SDP non charging port, in the example, the port goes to SDP w/ 0.9A limit. Would it be the case of changing the I_LIM_LO resistor to any desirable value (e.g. that sets current to  <100mA)?
  3. What would be the timing transition from CDP High Current to SDP2?

 

2-    Using a circuit connected to ILIM_HI ( a resistor in parallel w other w a FET in such way that we can chanve the resistor value dynamically , and that way, the charging current value). Questions:

  1. Is there any problem of doing this way?
  2. Will this change be “on the fly”? How long would it take to change the current value once we change the resistor value?

 Between those two methods, what would be the recommended to address this requirement? Any other suggestions?

Tks

Raphae Marchi 

  • Hello Raphael,

    Can you explain why the customer would need to change the current limit for a transient surge? How will the host platform be able to determine that a transient surge is about to occur and change the current limit accordingly?

    1. If you are wanting to change the advertised current limit from CDP mode to something lower while still having data connections, then yes SDP is the correct mode. As far as the timing, the total discharge time should be 330ms

    2. Yes this can be done as the current limit circuitry is an internal analog circuitry. However, the exact time to change between the different current setting is difficult to determine, so I would recommend allocating a hundred milliseconds to be safe

    As far as any other way to address the requirement, I'm not sure as I do not see how the central EC will be able to determine that a surge event occurred and change the settings on the TPS2544 before the TPS2544 sees it.
  • Hi, Adam

    As per my customer.the measured times were diferente, those were close to micro seconds. Can you explain a litte better the discharge question and which situations are necessary for doing the discharge?

    The reason that my customer wants to reduce the charge current is to protect the pre-regulator, that works as a protection against surges., specially load dump, which has high energy and can last up to 0.6s, This is the pre-regulator

    When there is a surge, the signal PWR_SURGE_DETECTED goes to around 5.6V. This signal is used to shutdown the non critical ciruits, like USB charger, in a such way that avoids Q200 to be damaged. In case of the USB charger, customer would like to set the current to a low value (lower than 100mA) without losing communication...

  • Hello Raphael,

    Would you be able to re-upload your image? It seems that the image was not uploaded properly.
  • Hello Raphael,

    I am going to close this thread since I have not seen an update on your side in some time. If you have any more questions, feel free to respond to this thread or create a new question.
  •  Adam

    here is a similar circuit

  • Hello Raphael,

    The picture you tried share seems to not have been uploaded. When adding an image, make sure to save the image onto your computer and click insert file