I need a design for StepUp PowerSuply(or other sollution) with these features:
Vin: LeadAcid batery 12V
Vout: 38 - 46V
IOut: Up to 10A for maxim 400ms
Thanks
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Laurian,
For a non-isolated solution, you might want to consider a BOOST converter based on the TPS40210 controller, but using an external driver such as the TPS2819. This will allow you to drive a much large MOSFET than the 400mA driver integrated into the TPS40210 would support. If necessary, TI offers drivers upto the UCC27322, which is a single channel 9A driver.
At the 400-450W of output power, I would recomend considering a transformer based solution that will reduce MOSFET stresses and improve efficiency. (The non-isolated boost needs a >50V MOSFET to carry upto 40A of current ) A Forward converter, Interleaved Forward Converter or even Phase-Shifted full-bridge converter might offer better end performance suche that the input MOSFETs see much lower peak voltage, allowing smaller, more efficiency MOSFETs.
Thank you for your fast and professional answer.
I would like to mention that this source will be used for a ignition system. The interface i build will gave a life time of approximately 2.000 hours. Out of these 2.000 hours i may need maximum current only in 5% of the cases and when this happens the time frame will never exceed 400ms. For the rest of functioning time the current will be made of 2-3A spikes. Considering this situation i would go for the inductor solution and I expect no issues. Am I right?
I am looking forward to hearing from you.
Laurian
I designed and built this circuit and did not work at more than 500mA(voltage drop 5-6V) with an inductor(4,7uH at 10A), diode DPG60IM400QB(400V, 60A) and 450kHz switching frequency. At higher currents(>500mA) the mosfet(no heatsink) is smoking in aprox 1 second. If I use lower inductor 0.24uH(result from formula) the output does not reach 42V as it should and it stops at 36V. What do I do wrong? What can I do to improve the circuit and obtain more current?
Thank you
Laurian
I designed and built this circuit and did not work at more than 500mA(voltage drop 5-6V) with an inductor(4,7uH at 10A), diode DPG60IM400QB(400V, 60A) and 450kHz switching frequency.
At higher currents(>500mA) the mosfet(no heatsink) is smoking in aprox 1 second.
I checked the datasheet for the IRLU2905PbF MOSFET. At 44V, this FET has a switching charge (Qgs + Qgd) of 33nC. Even with 2A of gate drive, this will take 16ns to switch. At 450kHz with an average switch current of 1.5A (and I suspect this design has higher switching currents than that) the switching losses estimate at over 900mW, so I suspect that your problem with the FET smoking is switching losses causing the FET to get too hot. Based on that, we'd look at lowering the switching frequency.
If I use lower inductor 0.24uH(result from formula) the output does not reach 42V as it should and it stops at 36V.
You have a 10mOhm current sense resistor. This implements a peak current limit of 12-18A. with a 0.24uH inductor @ 12V, you'll see 50A/us inductor current slew-rate. A current limit of 15A will trigger after 300ns which provides a maximum duty cycle of 13.5% @ 450kHz switching frequency. The 36V point that you're seeing is the ouptut voltage that the repeated OCP faults are allowing the ouptut voltage to charge up to.
What do I do wrong? What can I do to improve the circuit and obtain more current?
First, your switching frequency is likely much too high for the power level you're driving. I would try to work at about 100kHz switching frequency.
12V to 43V and a 0.5V diode gives 72% switch duty cycle and 35A average inductor current when sourcing 10A to the load. Using 12V, 72% duty cycle, 10A and 450kHz I get an inductor value of 1.92uH. Reducing this to 100kHz will drive a 10uH inductor for 10A peak to peak inductor ripple current. Since your design will typically be running a much lower currents, you might want to consider an even higher inductor to reduce the ripple current further. A 22 or even 47uH inductor.
In addition, to support 35A switch current with 10A ripple current, the peak switch current would be 40A, so you'll need to have a current sense resistance (Source of the MOSFET to GND) of less than 2mOhms.
All that said, I don't think the FET you've selected can support 35A @ 72% duty cycle. This is 29.7Arms, which would dissipate 23.8W of power across a 27mOhm FET and a MOSFET with a lower Rdson will have higher switching losses, unless a more powerful driver is used. For this much power, you may even have to consider several MOSFETs in parallel to disspate the energy.
Thanks a lot
Now it's more clear but I still need a little help with some advices. Because it;s high current on I found only 3 inductors on the market that match what I need. It's a 10uH with 30A SC(Saturation Current), 5.6uH at 40A SC and 4.7uH at 55A. I think I use it 5.6uH at 40A saturation current. I considered 90% efficiency and at that high amperage in the battery voltage will drop to 9V. Output was calculated at 6A, 42V and peak-to-peak ripple is chosen to be 40%(Output current now can have 40% peaks too?) of the maximum input current. I want to exchange mosfet with this one: PSMN3R0-60PS who have more power dissipation and more current and less RDS (on).
You can tell me if i make a good choice with this one? Or what features to look for when choosing a mosfet for my application?
Laurian
I redesigned the scheme and the PCB considering your advice but I came across some problems.
1. Measured switching frequency is much smaller than it ought to be (from the resistance and capacitor used). In order to check I put the resistance and capacitor in the example given in the data sheet. More specifically with a capacitor of 100pF and a resistance of 220K I got a frequency of 475kHz instead of 600kHz, just as it should be(data sheet).
2. I have problems starting the source if I use the resistance Rsense and SoftStart. I managed to start the power supply without Rsense and SS and no problems occurred even if I put a consumer of 2 - 3A (more it could not work because I had no inductor available with these features). I used a frequency of 90kHz and a 22uH inductor with a saturation current of 22A. In 8A, which is the power I need, I will use a 5.6uH inductor with a saturation current of 40A and for that a frequency of 250kHz resulted from the formula.
Observations. I have seen on the oscilloscope that their is noise on the ground path. I think there's a problem with the test PCB I have made because the ground path is quite long.
Thank you
Laurian