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LM27762: Load on OUT- causes VOUT+ to drop.

Part Number: LM27762

Hi,

I'm have a circuit generating +/-5V from a 5V35 input. Loading the -5V output causes the +5V LDO output to drop (eg. drawing 200mA from OUT- causes +5V output to drop from 5.04V to 4.56V. (The -5V rail drops from -4.96V to -4.86V). I can understand the -5V rail dropping a bit (my flying cap is 470n, looks like 1u would be better) but I can't see how this could affect the positive LDO, and by so much. The input 5V35 is rock solid. (Again, maybe need to raise this for a bit more overhead for -5V, but shouldn't affect +5V).

C12, C14 & C15 are X7R.

Any ideas what's wrong?

Thanks.

  • ... a bit more information: this appears to happen on 3 out of 3 boards. On the board I'm investigating, I have removed the ICs that are powered by +/-5V. All that is left hanging  on the +5V rail is about 3u3 of decoupling, and an LED drawing 1mA. Applying the load to -5V, the +5V drops in an RC style over about 1 second. Removing the load, it rises in about 3 seconds:

  • ... I increased the flying cap C12 to 1u: The step load drop on -5V halved but the drop on +5V doubled.

  • Hi Brian,

    Thank you for all the details. I am taking care of this request.

    Please give me sometime to analyse and I will get back to you as soon as I can.

    Regards,

    Febin

  • Hi Brian,

    My suggestion would be to use E96 -1% tolerance resistors for R1, R2, R3, R4 (Feedback resistors: please check the datasheet if necessary). 

    Hence please use R1=316k, R3=309k, R2 & R4=100k and try to take the measurements again.

    Please let me know if it works or if you need any further help.

    Regards,

    Febin

  • Hi Brian,

    Additionally, I also guess that the device is running close to 100% mode. (VIN- 5.35V, VOUT-5V)

    So, I would suggest to measure VIN with and without load with the same BOM. It should be lower with a load.

    What is the maximum load applied at both outputs?

    Please increase the VIN slightly (with a load) and take the measurements again. I hope this would solve the problem.

    Regards,

    Febin

  • Hi Febin, this did not fix the problem.

  • Hi Febin,

    This did not fix the problem. Increasing Vin by 0.1V, Vout+ increased by 0.03V under load.

    I was testing with 200mA loads. Typically will be using 100-150mA.

  • Hi Brian,

    1. Please confirm you are using 1% tolerance resistors. Have you used  R1=316k, R3=309k, R2 & R4=100k or resistive load? This is very important.

    2. Please use a stable DC power supply of 5.5V.

    3. Can you please provide oscilloscope plots for Vin, +/-Vout, +/-Iout, Cfly with Vin=5.5V, +/-Iout=200mA, Vout=+/-5V, Cin=10uF and Cfly=1uF. The other external capacitors as per your schematic. Please provide plots for both with and without load.

    4. Do you have a chance to work with the EVM?

    Regards,

    Febin

  • Hi Fabin,

    I am using 1% 100k & 316k for both. I could not get 309k quickly. The absolute voltage does not have to be exaclty 5.0V.

    Vin is stable 5.45V. I can try to increase it a bit, but the stripped down board I was working on has died and now I have to use a board that I have to ship, so I'm a bit more limitied in what I can do.  I did try replacing the caps with recommendations from the power desiger, and the -5V output only made it to -1V.

    I will try to get the measurements. Could take a while...

    I don't have the EVM.

  • Hi Brian,

    In the meantime, I would like to see the layout if that is possible.

    Regards,

    Febin

  • Hi Brian,

    Do you have some updates?

    Since, it is taking longer than expected, can we take this thread internal and discuss when you have the plots ready. If you are fine with this, please contact me through my email: febin.hameed@ti.com

    It will be better if you share the layout as well. 

    Regards,

    Febin