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BQ24195: REGN and PMID definitions

Part Number: BQ24195
Other Parts Discussed in Thread: , BQ25895

Q1. I've looked all over and can't find what REGN and PMID stand for.

Q2. In section 5 of the datasheet (SLUSB97A) the last sentence of the 4th paragraph states"When the full battery falls below the recharge threshold, the charger will automatically start another charging cycle." and in section 8.3.3.1 the last sentence of the paragraph under the bullets states "When a full battery voltage is discharged below recharge threshold (REG04[0]), the bq24195L, bq24195 automatically starts another charging cycle." The Battery Recharge Threshold (VRECHG) can be set to 100 or 300 mV with the default being 100 mV. What is the 100 or 300 mV referenced to? It can't be referenced to ground or the recharge cycle wouldn't start until way below 3.0 V. I'm using a LiCoO2, 2000 mAh, 3.7 V battery.

Thanks Much!

  • Hi,

    1. REGN is internal LDO regulator. PM100mV ID is the direct power input for the charger.

    2. 100mV or 300mV is referenced to VREG (REG04[7:2]).

    Thanks,

    Ning.

  • Hi Ning,

    Thanks for responding!

    I should have asked differently and I apologize for any confusion.

    1) What do the letters stand for? Example: POR stands for Power On Reset

    2) I was really asking multiple questions here so please allow me to clarify:

    2.1.a  "When the full battery falls below the recharge threshold, the charger will automatically start another charging cycle." 1

    2.1.b "When a full battery voltage is discharged below recharge threshold (REG04[0]), the bq24195L, bq24195 automatically starts another charging cycle." 2

    The term “full battery” is what’s throwing me off and of the two statements here, the second statement, while self contradicting, makes more sense that the first sentence. My rationale for saying this is that, referring to 2.1.a, a "full battery" will have a voltage around 4.1 to 4.2 V and never fall below the VRECHG threshold, therefore it shouldn’t be referred to as a “full battery”.

    The statement in 2.1.b again uses the phrase “full battery”, but this time adds the fact that the battery has been “discharged”, however it says that when the battery voltage drops below the VRECHG threshold another charging cycle is initiated. You stated that VRECHG threshold (100 mV or 300 mV) is referenced to VREG (REG04[7:2]). This means if VREG is set to 4.208 V (default) and VRECHG is set to 100 mV (default) the recharge cycle will initiate when the battery voltage drops below 4.108.

    VREG (4.208 V) - VRECHG (100 mV) = 4.108 V therefore VRECHG can’t be referenced to VREG or to GND as I stated in my original query.

    2.1) The PCM on my battery has an Overdischarge threshold of 2.50 V and I want my battery recharge cycle to initiate at 3.0 V so how do I achieve this?

    2.2) Does or can the phrase “full battery” mean something other than a battery that is full?  Please note this is just a confusing/irritating point for me considering my background in Metrology where accuracy and precision are the order of the day.

     

    References are within Datasheet SLUSB97A

    1 section 5 the last sentence of the 4th

    2 section 8.3.3.1 the last sentence of the paragraph under the bullets

    Thanks Much,

    Vernon

  • Veron,

    1) The pin names are inherited from earlier products.

    2.1) The host may disable charge when needed, but separate battery monitoring circuitry is needed. You may consider BQ25895 which has integrated battery monitoring function.

    2.2) Full battery means the battery voltage has reached VREG (e.g. 4.208V), i.e. the battery is charged to full.

    Thanks,

    Ning.

  • Hi Ning,

    I've been working with the bq27441 Fuel Gage, however a cursory look at the bq25895 looks very promising.  Thank you so much for the help!

    Stay Safe!

    Vernon