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BQ28Z610-R1: 2S ( 2P ) LiPo Battery-management + Charger + Fuel-Gauge + Balancing

Part Number: BQ28Z610-R1
Other Parts Discussed in Thread: BQ25713, EV2400, BQSTUDIO, BQ28Z610

Hi,     :)

 

I am a student at Hochschule München (Applied Sciences) and involved in a project on the Car2X topic.
For this we have three 1:10 scale model vehicles in operation.

The next step for our team is the integration of a battery management and charging system for LiPo batteries.
The target battery configuration is 2S 2P. (4 cells of 3.7V 25C 4200mAh / only 2s is also an option but less suitable.)
We want to do this as efficiently as possible. 

After a lot of research we came to the conclusion that a combination of the BQ28Z610-R1 and BQ25713 could be a nice and powerful combination for us.
(We know that we will need bqstudio + EV2400)

 1. draft:

(The motor is controlled over a h-bridge)

 further Conditions: 

  1. Each cell should be balanced
  2. The capacity/charge status  + voltages should be monitored and readable over I2C.
  3. Overcharge / current protection
  4. Deep charge protection
  5. Low self-consumption when switched off
  6. little space requirement (high integration density)
  7. (motor needs ~14A , 5V+3,3V ~5A load)
    nice to haves/ questions:
  8. It would be nice, if we could use a integrated processing unit to control two additional FET's, for switching the motor and the µC(Raspberry+Arduino..) Supply, without adding a µC for this purpose.
    • Is the BQBMP processor capable to do that for us? (or a charger?)
    • is it possible to program some additional lines of code to switch off the motor at a battery level <=10% an the other loads(µC) at a battery level <=5%
    • +sending a warning according to these two capacity-levels (over I2C)
  9. Is it possible to use two  BQ28Z610-R1 gas gauges together?
    • to change their addresses(if needed)
    • that they can communicate the correct current and voltage... values to the charger
      • can they add up the values?
      • or is the charger capable to do so?
  10. how would it be possible to balance and protect all cells and measure their capacity, when it comes to parallelization?
  11. Is the point in the draft, which is marked as "critical" the position where the load should be placed?
  12. Is their an other solution we should prefer?

Its a pity, that it seams like we're just getting a good 2s configuration this way.

I would be happy if you could give us some answers or advice's here. 

 

Sincerely yours

Daniel Kerz

  • Hi Daniel,

    BQ28z610 has a fixed i2c address and therefore you cannot change its i2c address.

    In addition,  I don't think it is a good idea to use two bq28z610 devices in your project.  My suggestion is to just use one bq28z610 to monitor all the four battery cells since BQ28z610 is able to support 2S2P.

    Andy

  • Hi Andy,


    thank you very much for these information and confirmation.

    I've got two further questions:
    You said that it supports 2s 2p, which would be perfect for us. :)
    1) Is it correct, that you meant it this way?

    2) Is the safety of the cells and system just as well as before with 2s? ( apart from having two more possible sources of defect)
    (If one cell gets week..., can the BQ28z610 detect it and give a warning before something else is damaged? / turn off the output..)

  • See my comments below.

    1) Yes.

    2)  It should be. I would suggest you take a look at the protection features in the bq28z610 TRM.

    Andy