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TPS2378: PoE integrated RJ45 connector safety clearance and creepage to body case

Part Number: TPS2378

I'm building Gigabit PoE camera and got stucked with connector safety (IEC60950). How much clearnace between body and primary pins enough? I can't find accurate values of clearance and creepage for PoE on web (i saw 2..3 mm recommendations).  Ok, I'm building 100VDC device with 1500V primary to secondary isolation. I spent days digging in IEC and UL840 and web. I see 1.3mm clearance for <=210VDC device 1500V isolation 3rd pollution degree. Hmm, maybe i 'm wrong and dont understand. I'm ready to put 3 mm to overestimate it and sleep, no problem. But there is another challenge - connector. All TI PoE reference design boards are built with pair of empty RJ45 + dedicated magnetics and there is much clearance always. But look at the integrated PoE connectors. There is something like industry standard for 1G PoE connector: 0826-1X1T-GH-F, LPJK6064AONL, JK0-0177NL, 7499511440 and so on all the same footprint. But. Look eg at that image of LPJK6064AONL connector. There is just about 1 mm of clearance. Is it OK?

  • Hi,

    Thank you for your question. 

    The PoE applications engineering team is currently out of the office at this time and will respond to your post by end of day Monday, 6/8. 

    Best Regards,

    Brett Colteaux

    PoE Product Marketing Engineer

  • Hello Egor,

    The clearance is not specified in the IEEE.802.3.bt standard. Please download here for reference:

    https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/8632920

    Another point is our IC absolute max VDD_VSS is 100V. Recommended operating input voltage is 57V. 

    If this post answers your question, please indicate so by marking this thread as resolved. Thank you.

     

    Regards, 

     

    Michael P.

    Applications Engineer

    Texas Instruments 

  • Hello Michael,

    thank you for your answer. But as I can see IEEE.802.3.bt does not cover IEC60950 safety requirements. Whether it's just communication standard and I have to guarantee 1500V primary to secondary isolation anyway? Imagine PoE camera on the roof of next building in the storm. It's not safe. E.g. guys from Olimex cruelly cut their connector to provide isolation. I want to do it right too.

  • Egor,

    Is it not specified in  IEC60950 safety requirements either then?

    Our EVM's and reference designs have Declarations of Conformity for standards they meet if you want to check those. 

    1500V isolation between planes is there to protect against surge and ESD events. 

    If this post answers your question, please indicate so by marking this thread as resolved. Thank you.

     

    Regards, 

     

    Michael P.

    Applications Engineer

    Texas Instruments