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BQ33100: P-FET is always OFF when system is powered

Part Number: BQ33100
Other Parts Discussed in Thread: BQ24640, EV2400, BQSTUDIO, BQEVSW

Our new project uses BQ33100 for Super Cap voltage balance control. when system is powered on, the PMOS is always keeping off. Can not charge the Super Cap.

I don't have an EV2300. How do I know if the IC works? Can I use the TI original BQ33100 sample directly on the motherboard? Or do I need to burn the Firmware_SLUC250A.ZIP (43 KB) to BQ33100 that provided on the official website?

  • Hello Len,

    The gauge should ship with firmware on it, we always recommend testing with the EV2300 to debug issues quicker. The firmware on the page may be an updated version.

    How did you configure the gauge for operation? You may be hitting a protection that is preventing charge.

    Sincerely,

    Wyatt Keller

  • Hello Wyatt,

    Thank you for the explanation.

    I applied BQ33100 to monitor the charge of 5 pcs 100F super capacitor series module, the charger is BQ24640. And we will purchase the EV2400 to debug issues.

    TKS.

  • Hello Len,

    Once you have evaluation software running with the EV2400 we will be able to see any possible protections being triggered and adjust the parameters for your application.

    Sincerely,

    Wyatt Keller

  • Hello Wyatt,

    We use EV2400 with bq Evaluation Software to debug the BQ33100. There is a problem that the BQEVSF tool cannot successfully recognize the EV2400 when using the EV2400 fixture. How can I troubleshoot this exception?

    1. BQEVSF tool cannot successfully recognize EV2400, error code: 2

    Method 1: Upgrade EV2400 FW to V0.28, which has been completed, but the error cannot be resolved.
    Method 2: Update EV2400_Support_Components_20110524.exe, which has been completed, but the error still cannot be resolved (the tool still only recognizes EV2300).
    The detailed pictures are as follows:

  • Hello Len,

    Let me check with someone else on the team more familiar with this software.

    Sincerely,

    Wyatt Keller

  • Hello Len,

    Are you running the software as administrator? I would also check to see if bqStudio can communicate with the EV2400 in case there is an issue with the EV2400 itself.

    Sincerely,

    Wyatt Keller

  • Hi Wyatt,

    I running the software as administrator can detect device, TKS.

    Now, I can read the messages of SBS & Data Flash.

    But, the CHG signal is always high, the PMOS cannot be automatically turned on to charge Super Cap.

    I tried to use the FETControl (0x46) function to force the PMOS to be turned on for charging.

    The test results showed that the PMOS can be forcibly turned on, and the super capacitor is charged normally.

    Confirm that the hardware circuit design should be correct.

     How can I adjust the firmware to make the chg function work normally??

    1.How to set the parameters to turn on PMOS normally?

    2.What conditions must be met for PMOS to turn on?

  • Hello Len,

    Great I'm glad you have the program working.

    I think the pictures you tried to upload didn't populate correctly.

    Some of the protections may be causing the firmware to keep the FET off which is why you can manually set the FET.

    The EVM Users guide is a good reference for using the software and how to calibrate/setup the manager: www.ti.com/.../sluu466.pdf

    Sincerely,

    Wyatt Keller

  • Hi Wyatt,

    Update the image file as follows:

    I read the messages of SBS & Data Flash.

    According to the description in the FET ACTION chapter, if there is any abnormality in the safetystatus status, the charge FET will be turned off; but in the TI bqEVSW tool detects, the safetystatus is all green, and no detection is high.

    But, the CHG signal is always high, the PMOS cannot be automatically turned on to charge Super Cap.

    How can I adjust the firmware to make the chg function work normally??

    1.How to set the parameters to turn on PMOS normally?

    2.What conditions must be met for PMOS to turn on?

  • Hi Wyatt,

    Do you have SLUA336B technical documents?

  • Hello Len,

    You should be able to configure the FET Action register in order to use the firmware to control the FET. Check to make sure the FET control register allows for the firmware to control the FET. Set the FET to be on and then simulate a safety event to ensure the FET is turned off.

    The application note SLUA336B must've been removed from the TI.com. I was able to find a copy but it only briefly covers the firmware update.

    Sincerely,

    Wyatt Keller

  • Hello Wyatt,

    I dump the .senc file from BQ33100-EVM-001, and then I am programming it in my board. It is workable. The PMOS can be automatically turned on to charge Super Cap.

    Thanks~

  • Hello Len,

    Great, I'm glad you got it working. How did you resolve the issue, did uploading the .senc to your board fix the issue?

    Sincerely,

    Wyatt Keller

  • Hello Wyatt,

    Yes, I just updated the .senc file from the IC on the BQ33100-EVM-001 board to my project, The PMOS can be automatically turned on to charge Super Cap on my project.

    In fact, I have not been able to understand which setting in the firmware allows PMOS to automatically start charging.
    I would be very grateful if you can tell me what happened on it.
    TKS.
  • Hello Len,

    It would be hard to say what specifically caused it because there are many options that control the CHG FET. My guess would be it would work on the EVM after a reset to clear any manual commands that were sent and put the firmware back in control.

    Sincerely,

    Wyatt Keller