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TPS65217: Not working, sys5v is outputting 0.35V

Part Number: TPS65217
Other Parts Discussed in Thread: AM3358

Hi,

I am working on a custom board where schematic is similar to beaglebone black. TPS65217 is getting 5V at input but its giving 0.35V at SYS5V. There is no voltage output anywhere else on the chip. I have checked for shorts but can't seem to find anything. What could be causing this?

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you

  • Samer,

    It would be helpful if you share your schematic. Some previous issues we've had when designers "copy" the BBB (BEAGLEBK) include:

    • PWR_EN pin on PMIC(PMIC_PWR_EN signal on processor) not driven by the processor or not connected at all
      • Result: PWR_EN low will allow the PMIC to turn on for 5s, then it will turn off and SYS will go low
    • BAT not used,or wired the same as it was wired on the BBB design
    • Over-voltage or under-voltage on AC- would cause the system to shut off and the PMIC may not recover automatically
      • typically, a push-button press (PB_IN) would test to see if the system is still operational after a fault on AC supply, but many customers remove the push-button from the final design which makes debug more difficult

    The approach I would take is to monitor the first power-on of the system closely with an oscilloscope (measure VAC, PWR_EN, VSYS, and LDO1) to get a better understanding of which type of problem we are facing.

    If LDO1 does turn on and everything else looks good, then I would start looking for a short on the board. You can do this by following the power-up sequence shown in the Powering AM335x with TPS65217x User's Guide and measuring to see which DCDC or LDO regulator fails to turn on.

  • Hi Brian,

    Thank you for your response. I reviewed my PCB again and Pin 21 on TPS65217 was not connected to Pin 22. I fixed that and now I am getting following voltages:

    LD01: 0.132V (stays only for 5 sec and then goes down to 0V)
    VSYS:1.29V (Constant)
    PWR_EN: 0V (Connected to AM3358 but do not see any voltage)
    VAC: 5V (At input Pin 10)

    What can be wrong?

    Thank you

  • If LDO1 != 1.8V, this is the reason PWR_EN cannot turn on.

    My recommendation is to remove power from your board completely for at least 5 seconds, re-apply power and monitor SYS and LDO1 closely during power-up.

    VSYS should be 5V (VSYS ~= VAC), but it will be ~1.3V when it gets back-fed through VIO. This means some other supply in your design is generating 1.8V, where 1.8V - Vd (diode drop) = 1.29V, which is connected to VIO prior to the application of VAC. Instead of a cold boot, you are starting the system from an unknown state.

    If BAT pins are floating, then VBAT = VSYS, and this could cause the PMIC to not recognize when you apply power at AC input. It appears that a battery is connected, even if it is a very low voltage with minimal current capability, and it is enough to keep the digital alive inside the PMIC and cause detection/removal issues on the AC/USB supplies.

  • Brian,

    Brian Berner said:
    My recommendation is to remove power from your board completely for at least 5 seconds, re-apply power and monitor SYS and LDO1 closely during power-up.

    I tried your recommendation and I still see the same results where SYS= 1.3V (stays at 1.3V) and LDO1=0.2V for about 5 seconds and then drops to 0V.

    When I remove power from PCB, I do see 0.2V on SYS which stays for few minutes. I do not have any other power source and I am not sure where this 0.2V is coming from. Please advise.

    Thank you

  • Please consider using RLL (a light load resistor, maybe 10kOhms) connected to the BAT pins of the TPS65217 PMIC.

    This is proposed as a workaround in the Designing Robust TPS65217x Systems for VIN Brownout Application Note.