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Good Morning,
when dealing with the first prototype of the electronic board that my company is developing, which mounted the part number BQ25886, we had some issues which you already solved. All the battery charger circuits worked correctly since then.
Then we produced a second prototype of the electronic board, which basically kept the same circuits of the battery charger. When the system is powered from the battery connected to the battery charger, everything works fine. However, I'm observing a strange behaviour when I connect VBUS to the battery charger. Both input and output voltages are not stable. VBUS voltage, battery voltage and system voltage periodically drop. The boost LC circuit makes noises periodically with the voltages drops. The battery charger gets quite hot quickly.
Here's the schematics of the previous version of the prototype (which works correctly):
D+ and D- lines are shorted together in order to always use the battery charger internal current optimizer algorithm, independently from the external power source that is connected to VBUS.
VBUS is provided through a USB connector:
Only OTG_VBUS line is connected only to the battery charger, other USB lines are connected to a microcontroller for data communication.
Here's the schematics of the current version of the prototype (which has the abovementioned issues):
VBUS is again provided through the USB connector:
The differences wrt the previous version are that now OTG_VBUS is disconnected from diode array D1; this caused the issue, that you already solved, i was mentioning above: one of the diode of the diode array was being forward-biased when VBUS was not connected and an unwanted small voltage was appearing on VBUS pin. TVS Diode D2 was added to provide anyway an ESD protection to VBUS line.
As I've explained above, in the current version of the electronic board, when the system is powered from the battery connected to the battery charger, everything works fine. However, I'm observing a strange behaviour when I connect VBUS to the battery charger. Both input and output voltages are not stable. VBUS voltage, battery voltage and system voltage periodically drop. The boost LC circuit makes noises periodically with the voltages drops. The battery charger gets quite hot quickly.
The electronic board has just arrived to us, therefore I'm going to dig deeper on such issues. Nonetheless, I've immediately asked for a support since you can help me to solve the problem more quickly. Can be any of the small differences I've done to the schematics the cause of such strange behaviour? Do you have any suggestion for some tests I could perform to find the cause of the problem?
Thank you so much! Kind regards.
Hi Alessandro,
Are you using the same input power source and/or cable for the new board? This device is sensitive to input line resistance and inductance. If you use an oscope to measure VBUS and IBUS on each board, you will likely see that the bad boards show ringing of VBUS either above VBUS OVP or below VBUS UVLO or both. If that is the case, then you may be able to prevent this by either clamping the input current lower than 3.0A using the ILIM pin or adding more capacitance at PMID.
Regards,
Jeff
Good Morning Jeff,
thank you for your quick response.
Slow decay (25Hz) of the VBUS voltage from ca. 5V to less than 4.8V
Here's the detail circled in red in the previous image; there are higher frequency oscillations (2KHz) approximately in the same voltage range
Thank you so much! Kind regards.
Hi Alessandro,
I suggest lowering the charge current and lowering the input current limit. The input current limit should not be set higher than the input source can provide. Adding more capacitance on VBUS might help but adding more capacitance on SYS or BAT will likely make the problem worse.
Regards,
Jeff
Good Morning Jeff,
thank you so much for your help! I will apply the changes you suggested.
Could you please also confirm that the other modifications I've applied to the current prototype board will not constitute any problem?
Thank you again. Kind regards.
Hi Alessandro,
Leaving STAT and PG floating is okay.
If OTG is pulled low through the resistor, OTG is disabled. If you pull the uC pin high, OTG would be enabled assuming the requirements at the bottom of d/s page 16 are met.
Regards,
Jeff