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TPS64200: Output Capacitor

Part Number: TPS64200
Other Parts Discussed in Thread: TLV62569, TLV62585,

I am confused about the output capacitor selection that is specified on pages 15 and 18 of the documentation. I am using equation 16 on page 15 with an inductor value of 56 uH, a delta I of 1.5 A, Vin= 5V, Vout= 3.3V, and a delta V of 0.05. This gives me an extremely large value of 1.5 mF. I was surprised by this because the recommended output capacitor values are between 47 uF and 100 uF. My delta I value comes form the text directly above equation 16, where it says "For a load step from zero output current to its maximum, the following equation can be used to calculate the output capacitance". My delta V is 0.05 because I need a very small output ripple.

I then looked at the examples given on page 18 of the documentation to get a better understanding of the component values. In figure 22, the inductor is 10 uH, the delta I is 2 A (because the max output voltage is 2 amps), Vin= 5V, Vout= 3.3V and the output capacitor is 47uF. Using these values I can calculate their delta V from the equation on page 15 and got 0.5V ripple output voltage. This seems extremely large for a 3.3V buck converter.

I would like to confirm that the delta I needed in equation 16 is the current ripple (NOT peak-to-peak) and that it's value is the maximum output current. I would also like to confirm that delta V is the desired output voltage ripple (NOT peak-to-peak). I am concerned because all the suggested output capacitors have far lower values than the 1.5 mF I calculated.

  • Hello user,

    I would like to understand how you calculated this inductor value of 56uH.

    Can you tell me what is your use case ? Output current ? Why a delta of 1.5A ?

    You indeed should get values in the range of 100uF/47uF as you mentioned.

    Are you still using this device in your application ? Have you ever considered looking at newer devices like the TLV62569 (2A) or TLV62585 (3A) ?

    Those newer devices are much easier to integrate in you design.

    You can even have a look at their respective EVMs for an simple implementation: TLV62569EVM and TLV62585EVM

    Let us know!

    Thank you,

    Dorian 

  • Hi Eric,

    With regards to Figure 22, the peak-peak ripple voltage is only 22.3mV only. See calculation below.

    delta I = [(Vo + Vschottky + Rrl * Io) * toff_min] / L = [(3.0V + 0.3V + (45m * 2A)) * 0.55us] / 10uH = 202.95 mA

    delta Vpp = ESR * 1.1 * delta I = 0.1 ohm * 1.1 * 202.95 mA = 22.32mV

    where:

    Vo = output voltage

    Vshottky = diode forward voltage

    Rrl = inductor DC resistance

    Io = output currrent

    toff_min = off time of TPS64200

    L = output inductance

    ESR = ESR of PosCap 6TPA47M

    For equation 16, the delta I is the change in the load current (Io1 to Io2) during transient load and not the inductor current ripple. As an example, if in your application the load current changes from 0.25A to 1.0A, then delta I should be 0.75A. By the way, the delta V in Equation 16 is the allowable voltage undershoot or overshoot during transient load and not the peak to peak ripple voltage. 

    I hope the explanation clears up everything.

    Best regards,

    Excel

  • Hello Eric,

    Do you have any updates here ?

    Do you have any follow up questions ?
    Thanks a lot!

    Regards,
    Dorian