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IWR6843AOP: Need BeamForming information compared to IWR6843ISK

Part Number: IWR6843AOP
Other Parts Discussed in Thread: IWR6843ISK, ,

Hello,

I want to use BeamForming in order to focus radar detection area and improve its SNR, no need for distance improvement.

I am currently working with IWR6843ISK eval board, SDK 3.05.00.04, and I succeeded using 2TX and 3TX Beamforming. I got as predicted a restricted emission cone of +/-11.25° in azimuth for the central lobe. I used the manual “Enable TX beamforming” in the Industrial Toolbox 4.7.0 as reference.

I want to compare my result to IWR6843AOPEVM board ones. It seems that BeamForming and BeamSteering are achievable with the AOP version of the chip, and the MM BeamSteering Lab of Automotive Toolbox 3.3.0 seem to give an example of that.

Unfortunately, I cannot find these pieces of information, could you please answer these questions:

  • Can you confirm that IWR6843AOP antennas are compatible with BeamForming and BeamSteering and that SDK 3.05.00.04 can let me implement it?
  • What detection cone could we obtain through combining 2TX Azimuth? And 3TX at the same time?
  • Is the calculation law described in “Enable TX BeamForming” document modifiable to use with the AOP version, did someone already did this? If you have an example, Python or Matlab script for example, I would really appreciate this.
  • Do you have specific recommendations or warnings into porting my current ISK app (derived from OOB Demo) into an AOP compatible one?

Thank you very much for your help, best regards, Fabien.

mmWave SDK 3.05.00.04, TI RTOS bios 6.73.01.01

eval kit: IWR6843ISK ES2 rev.d

compiler ti cgt 16.9.6.LTS, CCS 10.3.0.00007

  • HI, there:

    Here are some answers to your questions

    • Can you confirm that IWR6843AOP antennas are compatible with BeamForming and BeamSteering and that SDK 3.05.00.04 can let me implement it?

    Yes,  at device level, beamforming is supported for IWR6843AOP.  However, SDK OOB demo does not support beamforming for AOP board due to the limitation of the angle estimation module.  

    • What detection cone could we obtain through combining 2TX Azimuth? And 3TX at the same time?

    We do not have measurement data for this. 

    • Is the calculation law described in “Enable TX BeamForming” document modifiable to use with the AOP version, did someone already did this? If you have an example, Python or Matlab script for example, I would really appreciate this.

    For AOP board, if you cares about performance for elevation close to zero, then the phase rotation calculation is the same as described in the mentioned document.  But if you desired elevation angle is not zero, you can use the following equation for  phase rotation calculation

    phaseTX_rad = 2*pi*(m_ind*sind(azimAngle_desired)*cosd(elevAngle_desired) + n_ind*sind(elevAngle_desired));

    Where m_ind is the TX antenna spacing in unit of lambda in azimuth direction; n_ind is the TX antenna spacing in unit of lambda in elevation direction; azimAngle_desired is your desired steering direction in azimuth; and elevAngle_desired is your desired steering direction in elevation. 

    If your elevAngle_desired = 0, then it goes back to the same equation as the one given in document. 

    • Do you have specific recommendations or warnings into porting my current ISK app (derived from OOB Demo) into an AOP compatible one?

    I would recommend you to go through radar studio to get raw data captured and check the performance first before working on your target code.

    Best,

    Zigang 

  • A more detailed example code for phase rotation calculation (for two-dimension antenna array) is given in the following e2e thread:

    https://e2e.ti.com/support/sensors-group/sensors/f/sensors-forum/987243/iwr6843isk-beamsteering-question/3650082#3650082

    Best,

    Zigang

  • Hello Zigang,

    Thank you for your quick answers. 

    I now have all the information I needed. We will keep the IWR6843ISK for the moment, and customize the pcb antenna if needed, since the IWR6843AOP is not suited to our application.

    Thank you again, best regards, Fabien.