I'm using AWR1843 Boost.
What does RF Gain Target mean?
(I thought RF Gain Target could ask the amplifier on the RF side without changing the gain of the IF amplifier.)
Is that really a problem?
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I'm using AWR1843 Boost.
What does RF Gain Target mean?
(I thought RF Gain Target could ask the amplifier on the RF side without changing the gain of the IF amplifier.)
Is that really a problem?
Hi Cesar
There are two questions.
First, from the forum you asked to refer to, is it correct to think of the RX chain as the format shown in Figure 1 below?
Second, is it safe to assume that the RF gain target is set assuming the dB reflected from the object?
(Example: Set RF Gain Target to 30 dB when the dB reflected from the object is likely to be 28 dB)
Fig1. RX Chain
First: Yes
Second: RF Gain is set as high as possible even if dB reflected from object is lower
thank you
Cesar
Yes, RF Gain Target changes the gain of the RF part of RX Gain
RF Gain should be as high as possible as long as there is no saturation
thank you
Cesar
Thank you for answering the question.
If the design procedure for actually determining the RX gain with radar is the flow shown below, is it okay?
1. Calculation of radio wave intensity (dB)
Assume the value of the radio wave intensity acquired by the antenna from the object and the detection distance.
2. RF Gain Target determination
Set the RF Gain Target to a value higher than the maximum intensity obtained by the antenna.
(Example: If the maximum signal strength acquired by the antenna is 20 dB, the RF Gain Target is 30 dB.)
3. VGA Gain setting
After that, set the VGA gain so that the object is detected.
Is this the way of thinking?
Excuse me again.
Is it correct to think that changing the RF Gain Target will change the gain on the RF side?
(ex)
If you set the RF Gan Target to 30 dB and the VGA Gain to 24 dB, the RX Gain will be 54 dB.
With this, it can be determined whether the sum of the radio wave intensity x (dB) received by the receiving antenna and the RX Gain can be detected or not under the following conditions.
Let min and max be the minimum and maximum intensities of radio waves that can be detected by millimeter-wave radar, respectively.
(i) When min <x + 54 <max
Detectable
(ii) When x + 54 <min or max <x + 54
Undetectable
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that's all.
I'm really sorry that the story has become long.
I should be able to provide you an answer by wednesday evening CST
thank you
Cesar
Hi,
Regarding your question:
(ex)
If you set the RF Gan Target to 30 dB and the VGA Gain to 24 dB, the RX Gain will be 54 dB.
You can't set the VGA Gain. You can only set the complete Rx Gain
Let's assume that RF Gain Target is 30dB, Rx Gain is 40dB.
Device try to achieve 30dB Gain in RF side. But in fact, it might be less than 30dB, for example 25dB. Then actual gain in baseband (VGA) side will be 15dB, to meet the Rx gain requirement 40dB.
Thank you
Cesar
After all, you can set the RF Gain Target and the VGA Gain will be the value that can be obtained from the actual radio field strength.
RX = RF + VGA
(Adjusted by RF: RF Gain Target) (VGA: Actual RX signal strength minus RF Gain)
No, isn't my idea wrong before the additional question?
(I said)
After all, you can set the RF Gain Target and the VGA Gain will be the value that can be obtained from the actual radio field strength.
RX = RF + VGA
(Adjusted by RF: RF Gain Target) (VGA: Actual RX signal strength minus RF Gain)
Hi,
I was finally able to talk with the design team about this. I think I have communicated some information which was not correct in the past.
So, please read this
Here is the input from design team:
The RF Gain target is used to configure the LNA programming to achieve RX Gain = RF Gain Target w/ IF gain = 0dB. The reach the programmed RX gain then, the IFA gain is adjusted. So with regards to the example:
RX gain = 24dB
RF Gain Target = 30dB
This means the gain calibration will configure the LNA gain such that the RX gain = 30dB when IFA gain = 0dB. Then, to reach the overall RX gain programmed by the user, the IFA will be configured to its -6dB gain setting (i.e. RF gain target (30dB) + IFA Gain (-6dB) = RX Gain (24dB))
Thank you
Cesar