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AWR2944EVM: Antenna Simulation in HFSS

Part Number: AWR2944EVM
Other Parts Discussed in Thread: IWR1443

Tool/software:

I am trying to simulate the Antenna in Ansys HFSS present in the module the results are not matching. I need assistance to solve this problem.

  • Hello,

    Can you please share the results you are referring to here.

    Thanks,

    E. Shareef

  • Dear Satish,

    This is funny. I am just working in the same area. I have tried to import the Altium data from sprr253.zip available on

    https://www.ti.com/tool/IWR1443BOOST#technicaldocuments

    but have enormously problems to import correct data to Ansys. So far I got a layer stack with all the unneeded vias and routes. My antenna field simulations are nonsense. If you still need some help, pls call back again. Maybe within the next days I have a solution for my project and can tell you.

    BR Bernd

  • You will need to export ODB files from Altium, then use Andy's Simulink to generate .aedt file for HFSS simulations. 

    But we can provide HFSS files directly for the antenna simulations on 2944 if needed. I believe that is what Satish is referring to here.

    Thanks,

    E. Shareef

  • This would be the easiest way. In my situation I have no access to Altium and Simulink produced a lot of layers I could not delete. So I converted the PCB to Ansys after reading the ODB from spr253.zip. To whom it may concern, I have prepared a recipe:

    <-----> Start

    open Ansys Electronic Desktop (I am using 2024R1.1)
    in project manager delete "project1"
    File -> Import -> ODB++...
    navigate to: "...\sprr253\Altium_IWR1443_revB_DesignSchematicLayout\PROC010 Web Deliverables\PROC010 Web Deliverables\PROC010B_Gerbers\PROC010B_Gerbers\ODB"
    you see the file "PROC010B.tgz", select it and open
    the ODB++ Import menue opens
    leave all layers selected
    leave all nets selected
    press "ok" button
    * wait for import
    now you see the full design
    zoom in in the area of antennas with mouse wheel
    you see, copper is not filled, there is only the ladder
    move mouse outside the sketch and press right mouse button
    open view display mode and select solid
    * all copper traces are filled
    click on layers dialog
    set "Disply" to "All Layers"
    deselect all layers with marker in frist column and in second column -> user header
    select "top, Dielectric_1, l2" in first and second column
    press "Apply" and check to see only these 3 layers
    click again on layers dialog (activation of layers)
    deselect "l2, Dielectric_1"
    apply and close
    now, you see top layer
    remove all parts and rout you don't want to see included in EM simulation
    -> find IWR1443 in layout, at 7 o'clock there is a quartz
    assume in mind a vertical line left to the quartz
    delete all components and routes left to this vertical line
    *
    activate layer "l2" and "Dielectric_1"
    for drawing select "l2" from list menue
    drwa a rect on l2 with the size, you wish
    select "Dielectric_1" from list menue
    draw a rect with the same size of l2
    * don't forget to save your work
    activate top layer
    set orientaion to right
    rotate the board (maybe use fit all)
    you might change the color of the dielectricum
    * save
    view top
    fit all
    mark the boxes on bottom of layout and delete
    * save
    edit the layer stack
    check file on TI e2e "">e2e.ti.com/.../iwr1443-dielectric-constant-discrepancy-for-rogers-4835-on-iwr1443boost-reference-design
    set the DK for the correct layer
    * save
    in layerstack editor check all layers, uncheck the desired 3 we need
    make all visible, except our 3 important
    "apply and close"
    fit all
    delete all figures
    open layerstack menue
    remove each layer, except out first 3
    * apply and close, view if okay and save
    now, place ports on pins of IWR1443, I started left bottom and placed anticlockwise
    *
    you might do a Geometry Check, I made it three times with healing
    * save
    define analysis single and sweep
    * save and "Analyze"
    Validate -> no errors / all green checked
    * calculating frequency points (6 at the same time): RAM 132 GB in use
    >>>>>>
    at this point, I selected all structures in drawing and use the function "Unite"
    this connected all overlapping and touching figures together
    *
    check if ports are on vias "top" to "top"
    *
    try simulation, wait ... wait ... wait, I was waiting for half a day
    * create reports and check S-parameters
    * create gain plot
    >
    >
    > good luck

    <-----> End

  • ... let me summarize: The antenna patterns are really good! Congratulations to TI and the engineers they prepared the patterns. After one has the layout ready for analysis, it is also possible to analyse the patterns only. Just remove all parts of layout up to the reference plane where the little step is in the antenna  feeding line.

    I am really impressed! The figure above shows a feeding at TX1 and TX3 with mag 1 and 0 degree. All other ports are not feeded.