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FDC2214EVM: FDC2214EVM

Part Number: FDC2214EVM

Tool/software:

Dear TI Technical Support Team
I hope this message finds you well.
I am currently working with the FDC2214EVM and using the Sensing Solutions GUI software for capacitive sensing experiments. While configuring the LC tank parameters in the GUI, I set the system according to a known commercial capacitor value, and everything initially seems to work fine.
However, when I switch to measuring a different capacitor (with a different value), the measurements appear to be completely inaccurate or inconsistent. It seems that the configuration does not automatically adjust or re-calibrate based on the new capacitor value, and I am not sure why the system behaves this way. (ex, LC configuration adjusted for 200nF for four channels and if we connect 100pF the measurement goes to 1F?) 
Could you please advise on how to correctly reconfigure or stabilize the LC tank settings when changing to a different capacitor? Is there a recommended procedure to ensure accurate readings after such changes?
Any guidance or documentation you could provide would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you very much for your time and support!
Warm regards,
Ju-Yong Lee
  • Ju-Yong,

    Thank you for your post.

    It may be the drastic change in capacitance (200nF → 100pF) is causing the device to lose resonance, and the input signal subsequently disappears.

    The best place to start troubleshooting is at the device inputs to be sure the waveforms are meeting the device requirements.

    For the two capacitance values, please try probing the device input pins with a high impedance oscope probe. Each input pin should have a (10kHz to 10MHz) half-sinusoid with a peak amplitude between 1.2V and 1.8V. Probing the two pins differentially should show a full sinusoid with the same peak amplitudes and frequencies.

    One trick that helps minimize distortion of the waveform is to place a 1k leaded resistor between the probe tip and the test point on the PCB.

    Once you have snaps of the input waveforms, please post them to this thread, and if everything looks okay, we will go to the next step.

    Regards,
    John

  • Hi John,

    Thank you for the prompt reply. Here are the photos for the channel input. It seemed Channel 0,1 were similar and Channel 3,4 were similar and the amplitudes are pretty smaller than expected and hard to estimate the frequency. Would these signals are okay for the measurements? 

    For photos, I put two signals with (1 V/10 ms) and magnified signals with (200 mV/ 100 ns, 100 mV/200 ns) for Channel 0,1 and Channel 3,4.

    Warm regards,

    Juyong

  • Juyong,

    If I am interpreting the plots correctly (and I may not be), the amplitudes look a little low compared to the data sheet limits of peak Vmin=1.2V & Vmax=1.8V.
    I still think the smaller cap value may be compromising the sensor waveform.
    What is the reason for selecting 100pF? Is it a requirement for your system, or would it be okay to use a different cap value?

    Board parasitics can make it difficult to compute the best value for an application, so one approach is to step thru cap values until you get the frequency and behavior you are looking for. 

    Please give this a try if your application permits it. 

    Regards,
    John

  • Hi John,

    I also think the amplitude was little lower than I expected (100 - 200 mV), it might be because I connected to computer without power supply. But I wonder why channel 0,1 and 2,3 are showing different signals. 

    For capacitance range, 100 pF was used just for checking the board measurement ability for drastic change of capacitance. Our applications will be around 1 nF to 30 nF, so I think it will be fine but still from the analog data, 0.1, 0.2 nF gap should be still well measured. I will try with the thru cap for the measurement!

    Thank you so much for your help!

    Warm regards,

    Juyong 

  • Hi John,

    I also have two quick questions.

    (1)Would it be possible to fix the frequency for every measurements? for example, can I fix frequency to 50 kHz and measure different capacitance? it seems the frequency is being changed for every measurement. Should I connect 3.3 V to the voltage pin(J8)? currently I am only connecting to the laptop.

    (2) And when I measure 1nF / 1.4nF / 2.1 nF / 3.3 nF / 4.3 nF / 6.6 nF / 10 nF / 22.4 nF / 46.3 nF, before 22.4 nF it showed nice graph for all 4 channels but the capacitance measurement get weird at 22.4 nF and 46.3 nF.

     

    Additionally I tried external capacitance-630 pF connected through breadboard and found the signal stabilization improved a lot. However the value was 11.4 nF or sometimes very small instead of actual value (22.4 nF). Are there any methods I can try for addressing this issues? I need range between 1 nF to 30 nF, but currently I could only measure for 1 nF to 10 nF.

    Thank you so much!

    Best regards,

    Juyong

  • Juyong,

    1. It should be fine to run the part off the laptop/USB, but that connection can result in a lot of power supply noise.
           Just to be sure it is not a factor, it could be worth powering the devicee off an external supply.

    2. The LDC sensor waveform and its frequency depends on the values of L, C and the overall Q of the LC circuit.
      This will determine the frequency range over which it will resonate.
      We don't have much data to offer on the choices for L,C, and Q other than f & Q need to not get too low.
      That may be what is happening for the 22.4nF and 46.3nF caps.

    regards,
    John

  • Hi John,

    Thank you so much! I will change the L or C according to our applications.

    Best regards,

    Juyong