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HDC1000 RH-offset & recover-times

Other Parts Discussed in Thread: HDC1000, HDC1008, HDC1050, HDC1080

Hi,

It will ask on offset and offsetr recovery time of the RH of HDC1000.

The data sheet (SNAS643A) 9.3.2 Recovery From Soldering, following description has been written.

"After soldering, the HDC1000 may exhibit an RH offset error but will slowly recover when the humidity sensor is exposed to ambient conditions."

Questions

1) RH offset is, what much of amount? (±? RH)

2) to recover, do you need How much time? (? usec or? msec)

Best regards

  • I am also curious of this. I have made 3 batches of boards with the HDC1008 and they are all reading about 20% lower humidity then actual. I am curious if the sensors are being damaged in the reflow over. I am fairly sure the software is correct as the last spin we put an option on to wire solder in the AdaFruit carrier with the HDC1008. This sensor is reading correctly. Only the sensors that have reflowed are reading incorrect. If my theory is correct about being damaged or dried out in the reflow, what are the options to bring it back? Or is it forever damaged?
  • I have the same problem. I have 1000 boards that read 20% lower than the prior revision. I've tried everything including re-hydration process. I'm to ship in one week and don't know what to do... The manufacturing house was very careful to follow all the recommendations. Plus, the prior rev s worked fine after going through the same reflow process.
  • BTW, I ran very thorough testing over the weekend with both Rev B and Rev C boards as well as a 3rd party logger. All boards running same software, same conditions, all Rev C read 20% low.
  • Rich - I purchased the sensors (50 pcs) from Digi-Key on 9-17-15 on a Digi-Reel. Digi-Key part # 296-38440-6-ND.  Curious if you are the same source/lot.  

  • Also purchased a batch of 5 from Digi-Key on 11-4-15 (296-38440-1-ND) with the same issue.
  • We have the same problem, our old boards worked and were using the HDC1000 and with the same firmware the HDC1000 are reading correctly and the new boards with the HDC1008 are 15% to 20% below the reference and the previous boards. I did try to configure the boards to 11bit temp and 8bit RH as well as enable the read both temp and RH in one (config register 0x02 = 0x1600). We are still trying to see if anything can be done in terms of firmware however we were able to get the full range (0 to 96%) of RH which means adding a simple offset won't fly. Got the batch from Digikey, sometime on Aug, the chip marking is 58F GK.
  • I tried another run of boards with the same batch of sensors.  This time I lowered the reflow temp down to 200C peak with SN63/37.  Even at a much lower reflow peak I am seeing humidity readings about 18% too low.

  • Hi All

    As noted in their datasheets, devices HDC1000YPAR, HDC1000YPAT, HDC1008YPAR, HDC1008YPAT, HDC1050DMBR, and HDC1050DMBT may exhibit RH measurement shift. As described in the datasheet section 9.3.2, the RH sensing element goes through a settling process with exposure to time, temperature and humidity. Material before 1527 could settle to an offset of +15%. The typical accuracy (RHACC) range for these devices remains unchanged and not guaranteed. We have recently reduced the potential measurement shift through electrically adjusting these materials and are offering to exchange newer devices (datecode 1527 or after) for older devices (datecode before 1527).

    Options for materials:

    • Datecode before 1527
    - Account for RH measurement shift in system performance, or
    - Material can be returned to TI for replacement

    • Datecode 1527 or after
    - To accelerate the settling process after soldering, refer to the datasheet for recommended hydration (85C, 85RH, 12hr) per section 9.3.2.

    TI will be introducing the HDC1080 replacement option which does not exhibit this settling behavior and does not require rehydration. The HDC1080 is a drop-in replacement for the HDC1050 and is software- and function-compatible with the HDC1000, HDC1008, and HDC1050.

    Regards
    Massimo
  • Massimo - Thanks for jumping in. I believe you mean -15% offset? Those of us with problems in this thread as seeing negative offsets.

    As for rehydration, I assume this doesn't work on the older datecode parts?

    I purchased a Digi-Reel that is D/C :Jul-2015 L/C 5283412em5. I have some pieces left and some pieces are on boards (that are now useless). How do I go about getting replacements? Do you have a direct email or phone number?

    Thanks,
    Josh
  • I was looking for the datecode on the HDC1000, but there I find only:

    5AJ  E4

    instead of something like 1524.

    How I get the datecode?

    Regards,

    Rolf

  • Hi Rolf,

    The date code is available in two locations,

    1. The label on the box/Reel.  
    2. The physical marking on the device (it should be 57 (YM) for the datecode 1527):
      1. (HDC1000/8)
      2. (HDC1050)

    Best regards,

    Carmine

  • I have three lots of sensors marked:

    58F
    GK

    514
    GK

    5AJ
    E4

    The lot 58F is after the 1527 datecode, but this is the main lot I have had issues with.  

    How do I get replacements?

  • Hi Josh,

    For the lot marked 58F, you should perform the re-hydration procedure (85C, 85RH, 12hr), as described in the datasheet section 9.3.2. This should allow you to recover the initial RH error, even in the case that it is -15%.

    For the other 2 lots, you can ask the replacement. Please refer to your usual distributor for the correct procedure.

    Sorry for any inconvenience, and let us know should you have any further question.

    Best regards,

    Carmine Iascone

  • Massimo,
    I have 2000 sensors, HDC1008, first 30 exhibited the same 15% offset. This is not acceptable for our device going forward.
    I changed the design to accommodate HDC 1080. I need to return 2000 HDC1008 chips purchased through Avnet.
    Please provide me with your internal reference number for this case so I can deal with Avnet and return the parts.
    Many Thanks,
    Ondrej
  • Hello Ondrej

    Please ask to your Avnet representative to contact me directly.

    Regards

    Massimo