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FDC2214 Frequency spectrum for electrostatic measurements of highly charged insects

Other Parts Discussed in Thread: FDC1004, FDC2214

Hello TI forum!


I want to measure changes in the electrostatic field sitting on an charged insect when it moves near a sensor. So far, we (neuroscientists) used electret microphones that had their membrane removed. Unfortunately they are bulky and the lower end of measurable frequencies is not ideal. I tried the FDC1004 EVB but I misinterpreted the sample rate, we need electro static field changes across the sensor from 1 Hz to 1 kHz. The Insect is charged with 50 - 300 Volts and the sensor should sense it in a distance between one and three inch.
I think the FDC2214 would be perfect (at the end we would like 4 sensors). I can not read from the data sheet what frequencies can be measured (because I am a biologist, sorry). Is the FDC2214 capable of doing what I need?

If you have an other IC in mind a suggestion would be highly appreciated.

related off-topic question:

If there is a Chip useful for me that translates the signals into I²C, is there a device you would recommend to store the data? So far we digitized with a microphone input on a USB sound card attached to a Raspberry Pi. That works fine but is not very energy efficient. Is there a chip which would just write the data on a flash/ hard drive? 

Thanks so much for any, even partial, answer!

Best wishes from Berlin

Benjamin 

  • Hi Benjamin:

    Sounds like a very interesting application. For the FDC1004, the signal waveform is driven at a fixed 25kHz. For the FDC2x1x, they can be adjusted between 10kHz and 10MHz. Unfortunately, we do not have any capacitive sensing products that generate a signal between 1Hz to 1kHz for your requirements.

    I also do not know of any sensing ICs that would be ideal for application and that signal frequency range.

    Thanks

    -David Wang

    Capacitive Sensing Applications

  • Thank you for your fast answer. I described it badly, what I meant was: if I, as a human come close to the sensor, let's say the FDC1004, there is a capacitance change, one second later I move away, that will change the measured capacitance at the sensor again. Now I come closer again and so on, back and forth. This would result in a "1 Hz frequency" (probably not how one would call it, but that is what I meant). Because the FDC1004 has a sample rate of 100 samples per second per channel I could move back and forth something like 20 times per second, so there would be 5 data points per cycle and I could estimate the "frequency" of the rhythmic movement from the measurement. That is correct isn't it? In our application the insect moves also very rhythmically, It will move back and forth near the sensor in "frequencies"  up to 400 times per second. So with the high kilo samples per second rate of the FDC2214, thoses capacitance changes can be measured?

    Thank you very much!

    Best wishes Benjamin Paffhausen

  • Theoretically, it sounds pausible but that is something that you would need to prototype. We have not done anything like that before. The concern now would be what kind of capacitance change you will see with the insects. That will determine if you have enough margin to distinguish an actual target or just some kind of environmental or setup factor like drift. Repeatability will also be a concern.

    Thanks

    -David Wang

    Capacitive Sensing Applications

  • Thank you very much!
    I will just order the FDC2214 EVM ans see.
    Ben