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TDC7200EVM - Timing Precision

Other Parts Discussed in Thread: TDC7200, TDC7200EVM

Hello.

I purchased this device because the TDC7200 is described as having a timing precision as low as 50 ps (approximately). Indeed, I was able to observe down to 75 ps standard deviations for measurement times around 1 us. However, when I switched to measurement mode 2 and increased my measured time interval to several milliseconds, my standard deviation of measurements went way up. I bought a second TDC7200EVM to separate variation in my pulse generator from uncertainty in the measured time (i.e. measure the same time interval with both devices, then ideally the standard deviation of the difference should be near the true uncertainty of the device). After doing this I found that the uncertainty in the TDC devices was a few nanoseconds; it had indeed risen well beyond the expected level of precision. Of course, we are shown in Figure 17 in the datasheet that the precision may rise up to 250 ps when using measurement mode 1 for a lengthy time interval. However, I had used measurement mode 2, and my standard deviations were still 10 times that. Does this device simply fail to perform at the highest time interval measurements? If so, is there a better TDC device you could refer me to?

To summarize, I need to measure time intervals around 5 ms with a precision near 50 ps. Can the TDC7200 do this? If not, I would appreciate being pointed to a device which can.

Thanks for any and all assistance.

~Dan

  • Dan,
    You need low-jitter start/stop inputs as well as high accuracy jitter free clock source. Clock jitter introduces uncertainty into a time measurement. See clock jitter discussion in TDC7200 data sheet section 7.2. As you are measuring very long period (5ms) the clock jitter uncertainity can be in ns. What's your input clock frequency and clock source? Suggest for your experiments you use a bench clock source like Stanford Research Systems CG635.
    Thanks,
    Vishy
  • The jitter in my start/stop inputs is irrelevant in this context, as implied by my original post. However, I did consider that a more stable clock source might improve the precision. Currently I am just using the TDC7200EVM onboard 8 MHz oscillator, but I do have available a 5071A 10 MHz frequency standard. I shall report back with my findings after testing that as a new clock source.
  • So, I switched to using the 5071A Rb frequency standard I had mentioned as my new clock source. Additionally, I tried binning my timing data into smaller bins than I had previously. I ended up finding that I had a multi-modal distribution, which had peaks with individual standard deviations around 100ps but together had a standard deviation of a few nanoseconds. I am still investigating to see whether the discrete nanosecond variations in the timing is due to the TDC or due to the start/stop pulse source.
  • I think I better understand what is going on now. I moved the TDC closer to the pulse source, and I was suddenly able to observe sub-100ps standard deviations in the distributions of times (for times above 1ms). I still have some issue where I am seeing multiple distributions of times within one data set, but I believe that is due to some problem with my start/stop pulse source. In regards to the TDC end of my problem however, getting rid of the 50ft BNC cable helped tremendously. (Likely the capacitance from the BNC softened the sharpness of the pulse edges, making the timing measurement less precise.)
  • Thanks a lot for sharing your findings.