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FDC1004 Sensor topology

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Hi,

I am trying to determine if the FDC1004 is suitable for a product we are designing (liquid level detection for plain tap water).


We are measuring the height of water in a reservoir, but when the reservoir is emptied quickly the measurement falls behind and takes a lot of time to get to the right level. Something like the topic starter in: e2e.ti.com/support/sensor/capacitive-sensing/f/987/t/477949     (adding https:// makes the form act weird).


When investigating this problem we found that a very thin water film forms on the surface of the reservoir which takes more time to "fall down" the side of the container. This effect gets worse after a few days of water going in and out of the reservoir. Applying a greasy substance to the surface solves the problem, but this is not a solution in our case unfortunately. We have tried a ton of different materials (mainly plastics) for the reservoir but all of them fail after a few days. We also tried coatings but they have to be food-safe and very durable, which is a tough combination.

Another solution would perhaps be to not measure using the fringe field principle, but with two plates opposite each other (like a "normal" capacitor). This way the thin film will not affect the measurement as much as it does now. The volume/parasitic capacitance of the film will be tiny compared to the total capacitance of the capacitor formed in this setup.

This is the topology I would like to use for the main electrode (not to scale ;) ) :

Shld2 Shld2    wall                   water(10mm)                wall   CIN1     Shld1

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And for the reference:

Shld2 Shld2    wall                   water(10mm)                wall   CIN2     Shld1

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Set CIN1 to differential with CIN4 (floating)

Set CIN2 to differential with CIN4 (floating)

Symmetry and placement of electrode will be very precise.

So the question is: "Can I use the OoP technique like this?"


Regards,

Tom

  • Hi Tom,

    Thank you for sharing your great effort to tackle the residual liquid challenge.

    It is possible to implement OoP using "normal" capacitors. As you already pointed out, symmetry is the key for the OoP technique.

    Regards,
    Yibo