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IWR6843: Interleaving ramps between two different units

Part Number: IWR6843

Hello,

Let's say I have two IWR6843 units using two TX antennas each placed close to each other. I want to run them both at 10FPS and merge the data from both the units into a single pointcloud. One way to do it would be time multiplexing, where you would simply start the first unit at time=0ms and the next unit at time=50ms.

R1Tx1: _|__|__| ... _|___________

R1Tx2: __|__|__| ... _|___________

R2Tx1: ____________|__|__| ... _|

R2Tx2: _____________|__|__| ... _|

(Each | represents a single ramp)

Another way would be to interleave ramps between the units like this:

R1Tx1: _|____|____| ... _|____|

R1Tx2: ___|____|____| ... _|____|

R2Tx1: __|____|____| ... _|____|

R2Tx2: ____|____|____| ... _|____|

Where Radar 2 transmits during the chirp idle time of Radar 1 and vice versa. I'm thinking this could be done using the SYNC_IN frame trigger mode. As an example, if the time between two chirps is 80µs with maybe a 32µs ramp time and 48µs idle time, I could trigger SYNC_IN on Radar 1 at t=0µs and then trigger SYNC_IN on Radar 2 at t=40µs and they should send their chirps at the appropriate times (I'm assuming the clocks won't drift too much during a single 20ms frame).

There are several benefits with option 2, like having no significant time difference between the frames, and lower total frame time while still having the same velocity resolution as option 1. Do you know of any downsides to using option 2, like if it will have any effects on RF performance? Do you know of any other problems I might run into with option 2?

  • Hello,

    The second approach seems doable assuming both devices get the frame SYNC trigger reliably at the same time. 

    Q: There are several benefits with option 2, like having no significant time difference between the frames, and lower total frame time while still having the same velocity resolution as option 1. Do you know of any downsides to using option 2, like if it will have any effects on RF performance? Do you know of any other problems I might run into with option 2?

    A: As you're planning to interleave the chirps of the two devices, there should not be interference since effectively, one device would be transmitting at any given instant. Compared to option-1, option-2 would have better velocity resolution due to larger chirp time (Tc) but that also results in reduced max velocity so you trade-off velocity for increased velocity resolution. 

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    Regards

    -Nitin

  • How exactly do the TX antennas behave during the idle time between ramps in a frame? Are they completely "silent" during the chirp idle time or will there still be some amount of radiation emitted that could affect the other unit?
  • The TX antennas are silent during the Idle time. There is however some settling time for the Ramp to fall down to zero as shown in the following picture so you may want to keep some margin (a few us) between the Ramp-End time of a TX on device 1 and the ADC Start time of the Chirp on Device 2 and vice-versa.

    Regards

    -Nitin

  • Thank you for your response. I have a few more questions:

    • How silent are the transmitters during idle time exactly? (in dB)
    • Is the VCO turned off during idle time?
    • What is the rise time when the TX is switched on and off?

  • Hello,

    This is to update you that I am still working on these questions and will get back to you within this week. Thanks for your patience.

    Regards
    -Nitin
  • Hi,

    Please find the information below:

    1. How silent are the transmitters during idle time exactly? (in dB)

    [NS]: The TX ON to OFF isolation is greater than 50dB.

    2. Is the VCO turned off during idle time?

    [NS]: The VCO is not turned of during chirp Idle time. It is however turned off during the inter frame time.

    What is the rise time when the TX is switched on and off?

    [NS]: The TX rise and fall times are about 100ns each.

    Thanks

    -Nitin