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TDC1000-TDC7200EVM: TDC1000-GASEVM - Ultrasonic Level Sensing - Noise in the COMPIN Channel

Part Number: TDC1000-TDC7200EVM

We are using a 1MHz transducer with a TDC1000-GASEVM for level measuring. The transducer was installed as per How to Select and Mount Transducers in Ultrasonic Sensing for Level Sensing and Fluid ID

The container I'm using at the moment is a domestic 5L metal Keg as shown in the image below:

The TDC1000-GASEVM settings I'm using can be seen in the configurations panel below:

We are able to detect the Echo in the COMPIN without problems when the container is more than half full, but there is always some noise (I'm not sure if that is the Ringdown) in the COMPIN channel as indicated by the red rectangle in the image below (sorry, we only have a 2-channel oscilloscope).

Even when NO transducers are connected to the TDC1000-GASEVM, we can still see a similar disturbance in the same location.

According to this and this pages, the TDC1000 is able to detect levels under 3cm, however, we are being limited on approximately 10cm while using the standard TOF mode as can bee seen in the video below:

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In this experiment, we started with the container completely full and we completely emptied it very slowly (the video is fast-forwarded). The level is successfully measured down to around 10cm, which is when the Echo signal meets the noise detected in the COMPIN channel. After that, "new Echos" are detected

  • What could be a potential cause for this 10cm lower limit?
  • Apart from reducing NUM_TX, what else can we do in order to reduce the minimum detectable level?
  • In the standard TOF, is the RX channel grounded before the TX burst?
  • Would you recommend using two side-by-side ultrasonic transducers (one emitter and one receiver) in order to overcome this issue?

  • Matheus,

    This is indeed a good experiment and I would be glad to help you in this regard. Please give me time till the end of this week.

    I propose we will need to use a separate settings for measurements below say 10cm in your case.

  • Hi Bharat,

    Have you got anything yet?

    Regards,

    Matheus Torquato

  • Hello Matheus,

    We are sorry for the delayed response. Have you had any more updates to your issue ? Have you had a chance to probe without any connection to the transducer just to make sure there is no noise coupling back into the COMPIN ? Have you made sure there isn't any noise on the power supply ? 

  • Hi Arjun,

    1) No. No Updates.

    2) This is precisely what the 2nd Oscilloscope image shows

    3) Noise on the power supply? Isn't all the power from the TDC1000-GASEVM coming from the USB port?

  • Hi Matheus,

    Good and bad news...

    Bad news:

    I am unable to replicate the false-positive result you've observed on your COMPIN pin. You can try to change the LNA_CTRL, TOF_TIME_CTRL, AUTOZERO_PERIOD, and SHRT_TOF_BLNK_PRD to determine if these internal digital triggers are coupling onto your receive path internally.

    Good news:

    We are releasing a new series of ultrasonic sensor driver + receiver devices called the TUSS44x0. The TUSS4470 variant is a full-bridge driver option intended to displace the TDC1000 in applications such as your liquid level sensing. The TUSS4470 EVM is available now on the TI eStore (https://www.ti.com/store/ti/en/p/product/?p=BOOST-TUSS4470&keyMatch=TUSS&tisearch=Search-EN-everything) but you will need to wait until the official device release later this month for additional details such as the datasheet, EVM's GUI software, etc.

    Here is an example result captured using the TUSS4470 with the 1MHz Steminc SMD15T21R111WL in a water level measurement scenario, where the transducer is mounted at the bottom, pointing up, and the water level is 95mm to the surface:

    In this case, the oscilloscope channels are:

    • CH1= Transducer positive terminal
    • CH2 = Post amplified and filtered analog output of TUSS4470
    • CH3 = Echo interrupt output based on internal threshold (similar to TDC1000)