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LM87: FAN RPM Error

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Part Number: LM87

Hello,

Our customer has some questions about FAN RPM accuracy of LM87.

1)
The datasheet defines "FAN RPM Error" as +-10%, +-15% and +-20% for each temperature range.
I think the main factor of this error is frequency accuracy of the internal 22.5KHz ocsillator that is used for FAN counter?
Is it correct?

2)
What is the definition of this "FAN RPM Error" ?
Does it mean just oscillator accuracy of the internal 22.5KHz oscillator?
Or does it mean RPM error at a certain RPM input like nominal input RPM? (including both oscillator accuracy and error caused by resolution).

3)
The customer would like to know "FAN RPM Error" at 20 deg C.
From the datasheet, it is 10% at +25C < TA < +75C and 15% at -10<TA<+100.  So from the datasheet, it is within 10% - 15% at 20 deg C.
But they would like to know more detail value at 20 deg C. Do you have any data at 20 deg C?

Regards,
Oba

  • Hi Oba,

    Below is my feedback:

    Oba said:
    1)
    The datasheet defines "FAN RPM Error" as +-10%, +-15% and +-20% for each temperature range.
    I think the main factor of this error is frequency accuracy of the internal 22.5KHz ocsillator that is used for FAN counter?
    Is it correct?

    This spec would include all errors in the device including resolution, oscillator, etc...

    Oba said:
    2)
    What is the definition of this "FAN RPM Error" ?
    Does it mean just oscillator accuracy of the internal 22.5KHz oscillator?
    Or does it mean RPM error at a certain RPM input like nominal input RPM? (including both oscillator accuracy and error caused by resolution).

    FAN RPM Error spec would would mean RPM input like nominal input RPM.  For example at 118°C when the fan is rotating at 1000 RPM the reading could be in the range of  800-1200 RPM.  

    Oba said:
    3)
    The customer would like to know "FAN RPM Error" at 20 deg C.
    From the datasheet, it is 10% at +25C < TA < +75C and 15% at -10<TA<+100.  So from the datasheet, it is within 10% - 15% at 20 deg C.
    But they would like to know more detail value at 20 deg C. Do you have any data at 20 deg C?

    We can only guarantee the specs that are in the datasheet which would be the ±15% at 20 °C.

    Thanks,

    David

  • Hello,

    Thanks for your reply.

    Regarding Q2), If RPM is fast, I think error coming from the resolution (=22.5KHz internal clock) become worse.
    Then it is impossible to keep "FAN RPM Error" in the datasheet if it includes resolution error(=quantitation error). That's why I asked this question.

    Regards,
    Oba

     

  • Oba,

    What RPM are you expecting on the fan?  I will double check that the FAN RPM Error spec does include quantization error.

    Thanks,

    David

  • Hello David,

    Thanks for your support.
    I'm not still sure what RPT my customer is expecting.
    I just got questions about RPM error to understand what range is reasonable and want to make clear the exact meaning of it.

    Regards,
    Satoshi Obata

  • Hi Oba,

    Is the concern that the fan will be spin too fast for oscillator clock to miss TACH edges and may cause errors?  Can you please let me know what fan the customer plans on using? 

    Thanks,

    David

  • Hello David,

    They just wanted to know the meaning of the specification.
    Today, I called them and they basically understood it. 
    I want to close this question. Thank you for your support.

    Regards,
    Oba