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HDC2010: Humidity accuracy

Part Number: HDC2010

Hi Expert,

Customer used HDC2010 and found out the humidity accuracy is not good in low humidity < 20% RH. Their chamber set 20%, 25degC and have humidity test equipment TES1162 and pcb in it. TES1162  shows 16.5%, and pcb reports 26%. 

Though they operate <20% RH, the error seems far away from DS data.  Do you have any suggestions about it? 

In addition, they try to use HDC2010EVM to verify but the GUI shows device "Not Connected". Would you please also provide some suggestions? 

Thanks,

Allan

  • Hi Allan,

    There will be some degradation in accuracy at low %RH, and we do not provide a maximum %RH accuracy below 20%, only that typical that was given. Do you know how accurate their reference is below 20%RH, and how does their temperature data look when they are at low humidity? 

    Can you also verify that they used a no-clean solder paste and did not wash the boards?

    If all of that looks normal, I would attempt a bake of the boards. Their boards may have been shifted if they came into contact directly with any moisture during storage or shipping. 100C for 12-24 hours is our typical bake recommendation. Followed by 24 hours of rest at ambient conditions. 

    For the HDC2010EVM issue, it appears that they are having driver problems. Please have them try the troubleshooting steps from this thread: https://e2e.ti.com/support/sensors/f/1023/t/681030?HDC2010EVM-Driver-installation-issue

    Best Regards,
    Brandon Fisher

  • Hi Fisher

    For HDC2010EVM, the installation issue is not solved after I tried to go through the steps from this thread: https://e2e.ti.com/support/sensors/f/1023/t/681030?HDC2010EVM-Driver-installation-issue

    There are some steps are different:

    Open "Device Manager" in Windows  and click on "Ports (COM &LPT1)"

    It shows MSP430-USB Example in the list of other device. But, I still can uninstall it.

     

     

    After I re-install GUI software with HDC2010EVM disconnected and re-plug EVM board to computer, it shows the installation for USB driver is not successful.

    I find the D2(red) turns on when it is pluged.

    Jiahao

  • Hi Fisher

    For reference TES1162, the accuracy tolerance is 1.8%RH at 10~90%RH.

    From TES1162 recording, the temperature reading is about 25 degC in the test. 

    The device PCBA was directly produced from the factory, and 3 samples I tried are the same result which only has a reading gap at low humidity.

    Because PCB board is packaged without air, we will not bake the board before SMD.

    Jiahao

  • Hi Jiahao,

    If you select the MSP430-USB-EXAMPLE device in hardware manager, you should be able to manually update the driver. You can direct the updater to the driver manually rather than letting it search for a driver. The driver is located in the Sensing Solutions EVM GUI installation directory, inside the EVM Driver folder.

    Su Jiahao said:

    The device PCBA was directly produced from the factory, and 3 samples I tried are the same result which only has a reading gap at low humidity.

    Because PCB board is packaged without air, we will not bake the board before SMD.

    Are you able to bake just the samples you've tried as a verification? Baking would be the only potential method to recover parts that have been exposed to excess moisture. Typically you would see some offset at all %RH values if that is the problem, but other factors such as chamber oscillation or reference drift could obscure the offset if it is modest.

    Best Regards,
    Brandon Fisher

  • Hi Brandon

    The GUI file I downloaded from Ti website is a zip file, and it includes only Sensing Solutions EVM GUI.exe.

    I located the GUI folder and tried to update the driver, but it shows Windows can't find the device's driver.

    For Baking PCBA, I think we can verify EVM board in our testing chamber first and find out what is difference with EVM board and my device. And than, we continue to distinguish if baking PCBA is necessary.  

    Thanks for your support and suggestion.

    Jiahao

  • Hi Jiahao,

    Yes the driver will not be accessible within the .zip file you downloaded from ti.com, that will just include the installer. are you using Windows 10? 

    You are directing the updater to look at the EVM Driver folder inside your Sensing Solutions EVM GUI-1.10.0 installation folder correct? Your install directory should look something like this:

    Mine is located inside the default directory: C:\ti\Sensing Solutions EVM GUI-1.10.0.

    If you still receive error messages after pointing there then you may have to disable signed driver enforcement (assuming you are operating on windows 8 or 10), then try installation of the drivers again.  

    Best Regards,
    Brandon Fisher

  • Hi Fisher,

    Customer installed EVM successfully. Their pcb reading is similar to the evm even better a little bit. The reference reading test equipment TES2010  had been calibrated on July 2020 so it should be accurate. Do we need to do any calibration and how for HDC2010?

    Please see below data comparison table and let us know if any suggestions?

    Chamber setting 

    TES1162

    HDC2010 EVM

    customer PCBA

    Temperature

    25

    26.2

    26.04

    26

    Humidity

    20

    15.2

    27.46

    24

      

    Chamber setting 

    TES1162

    HDC2010 EVM

    customer PCBA

    Temperature

    25

    26

    25.8

    25.79

    Humidity%

    35

    31.9

    41.9

    38.5

    Regards,

    Allan

  • Hi Allan,

    If their reference is correct the only other explanation i can think of here is that the EVM has been exposed to moisture (possibly during shipping or storage), They can try a bake on the EVM if they would like to try recovering it.

    In the meantime i am ordering a few of these to verify the offset on my end. I will update you as soon as I've checked this. 

    Best Regards,
    Brandon Fisher