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System Analyzer on MSP430, Without Sys/Bios

Stuart Baker
Genius 10620 points
Other Parts Discussed in Thread: MSP430F5438A

I'm trying to use System Analyzer with MSP430 (single threaded).  This wiki page leads me to believe that it is supported in version 1.1:

http://processors.wiki.ti.com/index.php/Multicore_System_Analyzer

However, I have version 1.1 and I cannot figure out how to include System Analyzer support in a MSP430 project.  The project wizard does not seam capable of creating a template project for MSP430 either.

  1. Is it possible to use System Analyzer with MSP430 without using Sys/Bios?
  2. If it is possible, how do I get started.  Please point me in the right direction.

Thanks,

Stuart 

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    TI__Guru*** 130875 points

    Hi Stuart,

    which msp are you using? Not all are supported with BIOS/system analyzer.  I believe you will likely need BIOS, however when you enter debug mode a very quick test is to see if the system anaylzer features are greyed out.

    Do you see BIOS examples in the new project wizard for your msp? 

    Best Regards,
    Lisa

  • 0 in reply to Lisa TI
    TI__Genius 10620 points

    At this point, I'm trying to get System Analyzer up and running with any MSP430.  If I choose a large MSP430, say a MSP430F5438A, the project wizard allows for a SYS/BIOS template project, but I don't have an option for a System Analyzer template project.  If I choose a C6000 target however, I do get an option for a System Analyzer template project.

    Thanks,

    Stuart

  • 0 in reply to Stuart Baker
    TI__Guru*** 130875 points

    Hi Stuart,

    I have been discussing this with some colleagues and it seems that full bios/system analyser support on the msp430 is something that is coming on the roadmap but not quite there.    System anaylser can be run on its own but only with a lot of work to port certain things you would need to your OS.

    Hope this helps clarify.

    Best Regards,
    Lisa

  • 0 in reply to Lisa TI
    TI__Genius 10620 points

    Lisa,

    I'm a little confused by your response.  I want to run System Analyzer single threaded (no OS).  This mode apears to be supported on other targets, C6000 for example, with example template projects.  Are you saying that this mode (single threaded, no OS) for MSP430 is not supported at this time either?

    If it is not supported at this time, do we have an estimated time at which it might be supported?

    Thanks,

    Stuart

  • 0 in reply to Stuart Baker
    TI__Guru**** 463481 points

    Hi Stuart,

    There is some instrumentation (UIA) that needs to be done on the target to generate the logs and other data that System Analyzer needs. If you are using SYS/BIOS, then UIA leverages several features of SYS/BIOS (BIOS logging, etc) to handle all of this for you so you do not need to worry about it. If you are not using SYS/BIOS, then you need to implement some of this instrumentation on your own. Basically, if you use SYS/BIOS, you get System Analyzer / UIA support out of the box.

    Stuart Baker said:
    If it is not supported at this time, do we have an estimated time at which it might be supported?

    Currently, there is no MSP430 support. I don't have a clear schedule for it, which makes me believe it is not in the immediate future. If there is an update, I'll let you know

    Thanks

    ki