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Tina-ti - Question about AC Transfer Characteristcs function for Gain & Phase

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Hi all,

I'm new to Tina-ti, so thanks in advance for any help you may be able to give me.

I have simulated the drive stage for an amplifier of a real circuit for a unit which checks conductivity of boiler water.  The unit uses a constant amplitude drive of a 1kH (400mV p-p)  triangle waveform signal into a load, with a feedback loop to ensure that the signal is always constant as the resistance of the  load or wiring losses change (from a few ohms  to several k).

In the simulation I have used a signal generator to produce a triangle waveform of 68mV p-p at I/P of the amplifier, and this produces a constant O/P of 400mV p-p (as the real unit does).

The simulation works fine & gives me the same results as the real unit.  But I need to make some changes to the amplifier, but before I do I would like to try & look at what the phase margin of the loop is.

Here's my issue, if the I/P is 68mV & O/P 400mV, this gives a fixed gain of around 15.92dB and I I double the sig gen amplitude, the O/P doubles accordingly.   But the AC Transfer Characteristics tool (see below), shows the gain as never getting much above 0dB.

The first plot below is for a load is for a load of 220Ω & a simulated cable resistance of 100Ω.  The second plot is for a load of 22Ω & a cable resistance of 10Ω.

Am I being stupid here & not seeing the wood for the trees here ?  So any help would be brilliant.

Hope this is sufficient detail, but I can load the cct if that would help.

Many Thanks

William B

 0435.Forum2.doc