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WebBench Output parameters - EXCEL output for components

Other Parts Discussed in Thread: LM5116

WebBench Design for 50V to 90V for a 12V SMPS, 1 Amp 

calls for a custom capacitor for Cin.

Cin CUSTOM CUSTOM 1 0 Cap 10uF ESR 1mOhm VDC 112.5V CUSTOM

Searching for this component or a combination to create such a component is not realizable.

Question?  Is there a way to use WebBench to design out (design around) this component?

I have tried using different coils suggested but this is not helping.

Any suggestions?

  • Hi Paul,

    Can you provide your design inputs? I am assuming you are using LM5116. Let me know if this is not correct.

    Thanks,
  • Nikhil - The design is as follows:
    VinMin = 50V
    VinMax = 90V
    Vout = 12V

    Device = LM5116MHX/NOPB
    Topology = Buck

    Design Bench Outputs:
    Part Manufacturer Part Number Quantity Price Attribute 1 Name Attribute 1 Value Attribute 2 Name Attribute 2 Value Attribute 3 Name Attribute 3 Value Footprint
    Cboot Taiyo Yuden EMK212B7105KG-T 1 0.02 Cap 1uF ESR 0Ohm VDC 16V 805
    Ccomp Yageo America CC0805KRX7R9BB681 1 0.01 Cap 680pF ESR 0Ohm VDC 50V 805
    Ccomp2 Yageo America CC0805KRX7R9BB471 1 0.01 Cap 470pF ESR 0Ohm VDC 50V 805
    Cin CUSTOM CUSTOM 1 0 Cap 10uF ESR 1mOhm VDC 112.5V CUSTOM
    Cinx TDK C3216JB2E104K 1 0.07 Cap 100nF ESR 0.021Ohm VDC 250V 1206
    Cout Nichicon UUD1C270MCL1GS 1 0.1 Cap 27uF ESR 0.76Ohm VDC 16V SM_RADIAL_5MM
    Cramp Yageo America CC0805KRX7R9BB561 1 0.01 Cap 560pF ESR 0Ohm VDC 50V 805
    Css MuRata GRM216R71H103KA01D 1 0.01 Cap 10nF ESR 0Ohm VDC 50V 805
    Cvcc Taiyo Yuden EMK212B7105KG-T 1 0.02 Cap 1uF ESR 0Ohm VDC 16V 805
    D1 Diodes Inc. DFLS1200-7 1 0.21 VFatIo 0.85V Io 1A VRRM 200V PowerDI123
    L1 Bourns SRR1260-820M 1 0.41 L 82uH DCR 0.15Ohm IDC 1.9A SRR1260
    M1 Vishay-Siliconix SI4464DY-E3 1 0.42 VdsMax 200V IdsMax 1.7A Rdson 0.21Ohm SOIC-8
    M2 Vishay-Siliconix SI4464DY-E3 1 0.42 VdsMax 200V IdsMax 1.7A Rdson 0.21Ohm SOIC-8
    Rcomp Panasonic ERJ-6ENF4322V 1 0.01 Resistance 43.2kOhm Tolerance 1% Power 0.125W 805
    Renable Panasonic ERJ-6ENF1004V 1 0.01 Resistance 1000kOhm Tolerance 1% Power 0.125W 805
    Rfbb Panasonic ERJ-6ENF1101V 1 0.01 Resistance 1.1kOhm Tolerance 1% Power 0.125W 805
    Rfbt Panasonic ERJ-6ENF9761V 1 0.01 Resistance 9.76kOhm Tolerance 1% Power 0.125W 805
    Rsense Panasonic ERJ-L03KF50MV 1 0.09 Resistance 0.05Ohm Tolerance 1% Power 0.1W 603
    Rt Panasonic ERJ-6ENF9761V 1 0.01 Resistance 9.76kOhm Tolerance 1% Power 0.125W 805
    Ruv1 Panasonic ERJ-6ENF3091V 1 0.01 Resistance 3.09kOhm Tolerance 1% Power 0.125W 805
    Ruv2 Panasonic ERJ-6ENF9762V 1 0.01 Resistance 97.6kOhm Tolerance 1% Power 0.125W 805
    U1 Texas Instruments LM5116MHX/NOPB 1 2.42 MXA20A
    Rramp Panasonic ERJ-6ENF4753V 1 0.01 Resistance 475kOhm Tolerance 1% Power 0.125W 805

    I have created a secondary design using a capacitive-stepdown but there are a couple of issues with this: One being what happens should one of the capacitors diminish in capacity? Secondly there is concern about ability to provide the needed input power.

    Do you have any thoughts on other means to resolve the issue of the custom capacitor?

    If you could respond to paul.wood@nextern.com it would be helpful.

    Thanks,

    Paul
  • Hi Paul,

    I apologize that we have limited number of high voltage capacitors in our database. Looking at your design requirement, I recommend the following capacitor for Cin:

    EEV-EB2E330SM
    Cap=33
    VDC=250
    ESR=0.4
    IRMS=0.56