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I have some questions

Other Parts Discussed in Thread: MSP-EXP430F5529LP, DLP-7970ABP, MSP430F5529, TRF7970A, RF430FRL152HEVM, MSP430FR5739, RF430CL330H

Hi, I`m Dan Park

I have some questions.

We are NFC Forum member and NFC Forum test laboratory.

So, I bought TRF7970AEVM/RF430FRL152HEVM last week.

Becuase we need NFC reference sample.

Do you know how to configure your test sample with our testing tool(Protocol capture tool).

We don`t want to develop NFC device, but want to test only NFC role such as Card emulation, R/W and P2P mode.

I`m looking forward to your quick response.

  • My email is 'dan.park@sgs.com'
  • Hi Dan,

    Thanks for reaching out about this. We do have example firmware+hardware designed with NFC Forum standards in mind, but the TRF7970AEVM is not a platform which supports this. The MCU on the TRF7970AEVM is too small to run a fully featured NFC stack.

    We have developed our latest firmware for use with our DLP-7970ABP BoosterPack which is the BoosterPack for the TRF7970A. The firmware itself was developed on an MSP430F5529, and you can use the MSP-EXP430F5529LP to interface with the BoosterPack to run our firmware example.

    This bundle can be acquired from the following link: https://store.ti.com/nfclink-bndl.aspx

    I will note that the BoosterPack setup runs at 3.3V by default so the output power over RF of the TRF7970A will be limited by this. You can get around this by wiring in connections between the boards without plugging them together and then sourcing 5V to the BoosterPack and use the GUI (will explain in a moment) to change the TRF7970A to 5V operation.

    Alternative you could get a more expensive evaluation solution which uses the TRF7970ATB Eval Module and the MSP430F5529 Experimenter's board. This setup runs the TRF7970ATB at 5V at all times due to a boost regulator on the TRF7970ATB.

    You can purchase the TRF7970ATB at: https://store.ti.com/TRF7970ATB.aspx

    And the Experimenter's board at: https://store.ti.com/MSP-EXP430F5529-MSP430F5529-USB-Experimenters-Board-P2413.aspx

    Regarding the firmware, our latest NFC stack release has support for Peer to Peer, Card Emulation, and Reader/Writer modes as well as NFC Forum compliance settings which allow for the various required configurations for testing.

    The latest version of this stack can be found at: http://www.ti.com/lit/zip/sloa227

    This firmware includes a GUI which allows for the easy configuration of our device for each NFC mode:

    The orange boxes allow you to choose different NFC operating modes and the appropriate technology types and bitrates

    The red boxes give you configuration settings, such as the 3V vs 5V mode I mentioned above, and the NFC Forum Compliance Configuration pane which allows you to set a number of variables that can vary during compliance testing for P2P and Reader/Writer.

    We also wrote app notes for each NFC operating mode which you can reference:


    Regarding the RF430FRL152HEVM, what do you wish to test with it? It is a Type 5/V tag, and it doesn't natively support NDEF messages though it is possible that a patch could be applied in order to do so. Do you want to test it for NDEF contents?

    Another tag platform we have used with the NFC Forum tests is the RF430CL330H. It is a dynamic NFC tag which uses ISO14443B/NFC Forum Type 4B and it only does NDEF messages. I think for testing purposes specifically we used the RF430CL330HTB along with an MSP430FR5739 LaunchPad. I'd have to check for more details on that if this is something you are interested in.

    If you want to discuss any of this in a more private channel, you can send me a friend request on E2E and then we could have a Private Message thread.

  • Dear Ralph J.
    Thank you for your help.

    We run the test established from NFC Forum which is only Digital Protocol(Type 1/2/3/4 Tag operation), RF Analog, LLCP/SNEP parts.

    And also, I`d like to know where can i found out Ti NFC Tool v1.7 you mentioned ?
    I have found out at software-dl.ti.com/.../index_FDS.html.
    Is this URL correct?

    I`m looking forward to your quick response.
    Best Regards,
  • Hi Dan,

    Okay, then the RF430FRL152EVM wouldn't be applicable since its Type 5/V.

    For the TI NFC Tool v1.7, it comes with the install package with the software I referenced above. If you let the installer make a program files folder for shortcuts then you can find it in Texas Instruments -> NFC Reader-Writer Application.

    Alternatively, if you didn't, then you can find the .exe in C:\TI\msp430\TRF7970A_RW_1.02.05\tools\TI NFC Tool\TI NFC Tool\bin\Debug provided you used the default install location and then make a shortcut from there.

    I am not familiar with the URL you posted above so I would assume it is not correct. It didn't seem to work when I clicked on it either.
  • Hi, lph J.

    I`ve found out TI NFC Tool v1.7 Thank to your help.

    But, TRF 7970 is not connected to TI NFC Tool v1.7.

    TI NFC Tool v1.7 is only applicable to MSP-EXP(Hardware)??

    I`m looking forward to your response.

    Best Regards,

  • Hi Dan,

    What hardware are you trying to use? Can you please list which TI EVM names/numbers you have? For example, DLP-7970ABP and MSP-EXP430F5529LP.

    The TRF7970A is an NFC Transceiver which requires a microcontroller to send it commands for functioning, so an MCU to drive it is required, and yes the GUI only runs properly based on the firmware for the MSP430F5529 which is what is provided along with the TI NFC Tool.

    You may need to install a USB driver to work with the MSP430 eval boards. If so I can provide a summary on how to install the driver, just confirm your hardware first please so I make sure I am giving you the correct instructions.

  • Dear Ralph J.
    Thank you for your help.
     
    I`m not sure what should I select and the product is suitable for our testing purpose.
    So, could you recommend a product for me.
     
    Best Regards,
     
    Dan Park /
    Wireless Div.
    Engineer / 사원

    SGS Korea Co., Ltd.
    SGS Bldg. 3F
    4, LS-ro 182beon-gil, Gunpo-si,
    Gyeonggi-do, Korea, 435-040
     
    Phone:  +82 31 428 5866
    Mobile:  +82 10 9960 2455
    E-mail :   dan.park@sgs.com
     
     
  • Hi Dan,

    I've emailed you and we can continue our discussion from there.