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Other Parts Discussed in Thread: MSP430F2013, CCSTUDIO, MSP430F2274

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Hi all -

I apologize in advance is this issue has already been discussed. My Wifi connection is extremely bad here and not feasable to review even the few posts in this forum.

Having big problems installing Grace. Miserably difficult to find install point for XDC Tools, which Grace requires.

BACKGROUND:

I am an long time MSP430 hobbyist and recently. I use the IAR Embedded Workbench to program my EZ430-MSPF2013.


I recently recieved an invite to join the Grace beta program and was VERY excited. This invite also made me realize that there is a free version of Code Composer that I could use.

REPRO STEPS:

1. Install, license and activate free version of Code Composer Studio v4 (4.2.1.00004).
1b.Install XDC Tools from http://software-dl.ti.com/dsps/dsps_public_sw/sdo_sb/targetcontent/rtsc/.
2. Follow instructions in Grace beta invitation to install Grace.
3. Fail at step 3: Click checkbox for the "Target Content Updates"

RESULT: No such checkbox or selection. Grace fails to update.

ERROR: "Grace (1.0.0.56-eng) requires feature "org.eclipse.rtsc.xdctools_3.21 (3.21.0.27-eng)", or compatible.

COMMENTS:  I searched far and wide for the latest version of XDC Tools -- apparently the XDC Tools install point is some huge $^#% secret. I found one page with about 5 screens of info on how to install XDC Tools and nowhere did it mention the insall point. Seriously? 5 pages on how to install a product and no mention of WHERE to get the setup? Shouldn't that be line 1?

I was finally able to install v3.20.05 from (http://software-dl.ti.com/dsps/dsps_public_sw/sdo_sb/targetcontent/rtsc/) but I could not find any version newer than that.

This was really frustrating. On the updside, I THINK I can now use CCS 4 to program my MSP430F2013. The downside is that the beta setup instructions created SUCH a run-around that 3/4 of my weekend is gone and nothing was accomplished except this report.

Thank you.

     David Ferreira

  • Thank You David,

    I too had the exact same response/problem when I tried to install, ccsV4.2 and Grace 1.0.x.  We understand the instructions stated to install ccsV4.1.x (or later) so I went ahead with ccsV4.2

    This is the third version of ccs I've had to install in less than one year, just to be compatible with changes in TI offered source code. (Frustrating)

    But in any event, thanks David for your labor and share...it will help many - I'm certain.

    Quick question, to install the XDCtools, did you simply run the .exe?  

    I'm concerned since, as I mentioned above, I have tried to keep three version of CCS3.x, 4.0 and now 4.2....

    Understanding this may be obvious to the proficient users of CCS, but us relatively new folks struggle with the confusion as we often have successful project running with previous version of the software and well (out of concern for reliable fall-back & reliability) I've been trying to do all application dev. for each project on the same rev. of CCS.

    OK well thanks to all, and we do understand this is all beta, so such is life in the fast lane....

    regards,

    William

     

    PS: Installed XDCtools to my Texas Instruments directory and I can explore and open the repository manager, but my CCS 4.2 does not see the installation, I 'presume' I must install this package, but again, I'm back crawling the TI support pages for info. and details.

    Suggestion welcome...thanks to all

     

  • Hi there,

    you shouldn't install neither the xcdtools not Grace by hand! I recommend doing the steps below:

    1.) If you have a CCS installation in place (find the latest version here http://processors.wiki.ti.com/index.php/Download_CCS) you should check for updates first and install them!

    2.) Now follow the Grace installation instructions as pointe out here: http://focus.ti.com/docs/toolsw/folders/print/grace.html?DCMP=Grace&HQS=Other+EM+grace#To_Install_Grace

    Now, click on HELP->SOFTWARE UPDATES->FIND AND INSTALL again and select 'Search for new features to install'

    Now, follow the rest of the installation instruction and you're done.

    Be shure to ONLY select Grace and xdctools3.21 in the next screen. Then, finish the update procedure.

    Rgds
    aBUGSworstnightmare 

     

  • David, I would also like to thank you for pointing out this problem.  I am going to use the mcu core edition of CCS to program the msp-exp430g2 launchpad, when it shows up.  I also tried to install Grace in the CCS ide without success.  The instructions @ www.ti.com/grace tell you, generally, how to install this plugin, but tell you to check the xdc tools box also and don't show you how that happens.  After a quick search on TI's site, I found your thread.  TI's instructions @ the Grace home didn't mention the repository you stated from the invite, but I tried to add it to my search for "new features and got an error message.  (it said something about needing >  at the end of something)  copy and paste seem to be disabled for the error message, but I hope that our input helps TI turn Grace into a useable product.

    Also if / when  Grace does install, and becomes operational, is there a users guide, training, or other supporting documentation for this product?

     

    Thanks

    Mark R Hunsberger

  • @ aBUGSworstnightmare,

    Thanks, and sorry I must have missed your post while messing around with CCS.  I'll try to update the installed components first and see if that does it.  I wish that the install instructions would have told me to do that :(

    Thanks a lot.

    Mark Hunsberger

  • @aBUGSworstnightmare

    Still no good.  Updated everything and still will not install grace.  Where does the option for xdc show up?  When it asks to install Grace 1.0 there is no other option for XDC, it just gives me an error about needing XDC and the only choice available is to cancel? 

    I am using Code Composer Studio 4.2.10018

    Does it matter that I'm not using Build 4.2.1.00004 ?

    Neither one will support the xds560, and that does not affect me at all.  I have an xds510pp.  The only reason that I am evaluating the CCS 4.2 core edition is for the launchpad, which I might add, I did not recieve yet :(

  • Hi Mark,

    yes, it matters which build you're using! You need to have at least V4.2.0.11017 (or later)! Pls check your version (help menu) again.

    If you're using an older version I highly recommend un-installing the old one and re-installing the current build. Then you can update it (!!!) and then install Grace.

    Rgds
    aBUGSworstnightmare

  • Thanks aBUGSworstnightmare,

    Pls excuse my ignorance, but where might I find the URL for the xdctools3.21?

    Thank you!

    William

     

  • Hi William,

    I'm (finaly) with you! Sorry for my doubts!

    I did an clean CCS core editon installation (since I'm using a Microcontroller edition for working with) and ran into the same error!

    I think the problem is related to the core editon since no xdctools were installed with this packeage by default (see below; captured during installation process).

    An error message is filed, but I think we will get a freedback from the Grace development team on the forum too!

    Rgds
    aBUGSworstnightmare

  • Hi William,

     

    you can solve the problem by adding another update site to CCS! Please find the steps I did below:

     

    1.) Click on HELP->SOFTWARE UPDATES->FIND AND INSTALL and select SEARCH FOR NEW FEATURES TO INSTALL.

     

    2.) Now, click NEXT and then on ADD NEW REMOTE SITE

     

    3.) I've named it XDC Tools with this URL: http://software-dl.ti.com/dsps/dsps_public_sw/sdo_ccstudio/TargetContent/Updates/full/site.xml

     

    4.) Now, select GRACE (or whatever name you've given to the Grace update site), the XDC Tools you've just created and click on FINISH

     

    5.) Now select Grace and XDC Tools V3.21.0.27 in the next window (see below) and click NEXT

    Download of new content starts (may take some time), and installation starts (CCS will restart).

    CCS then again re-starts and now Grace is in place (see below).

     

    Let us know if this works for you too!

    aBUGSworstnightmare

  •  

    Just to further clarify, the installation instruction currently assumes you are using the Full version of CCS. The Core Edition (also knowns as the "Free Code Size Limited Version", does not include XDC tools, hence you need to add the above additonal instructions.
    Raj

  • @  -- Thank you for your concise, thoughtful response. I (we) appreciate the effort you put in. This solved the problem for which I had created this thread.

    @ Raj -- Thank you, also.

    Now that I have Grace working on my machine here, I tried to create a project. Looks like I did the right thing because Grace kicks in.

    But in the end, when I build my project, I get an error that says my MSP430F2013 chip is not supported by Grace.

    That's interesting since before embarking on this epic last Friday night, I double checked to make sure that my MSP430F2013 chip would be supported by Grace.

    I'm sure it's just a configuration issue -- surely the person who promised that Grace would be usable with this chip understood what they were promising.

    My mantra for today: "God, give me the grace to work with Grace .. and not use profanity."

    Off to start a new thread on this issue.

  • David,

    The officially supported devices for the the Grace beta release are:

    • MSP430F2274
    • MSP430G2xxx Value Line

    This statement is reflected in the product page at www.ti.com/grace and also in the Grace release notes.

    Where did you see the MSP430F2013 device listed?

     

  • aBugsWorstNightmare, Thanks for your patience and support,

    Installation went well when using the URL you provided.  It's always amazing, in hind sight, how it all make sense with the appropriate knowledge...Thank You.

    Now to see if this concept of 'Grace' will be of an advantage in my work....Thanks again to all supporting this knowledge base...

    regards,

    William

     

     

  • And thanks for the feedback.  Just FYI, the installation instructions at http://www.ti.com/grace have been updated to account for the CCS Core Edition.  I have also set up a Grace installer Wiki page at http://processors.wiki.ti.com/index.php/Grace_Installation that have the same instructions, but with a couple of screen shots thrown in as well.  Perhaps we'll eventually just point everyone to this page to allow for easier and quicker improvements.  We are also looking at ways to further improve the installation experience -- particularly for people new to Eclipse.

     

    Best Regards,

    David Friedland

    Grace Project Manager

  • Hi Dave,

    just want to let you know that the screen shots on http://processors.wiki.ti.com/index.php/Grace_Installation were not in place!

    Will we see a larger Grace wiki in the near future?

    Kind regards
    aBUGSworstnightmare 

  • Hmmm, I'm not sure how that got corrupted, but I think I have it restored correctly now.

    I am definitely interested in adding to the Grace Wiki content and have a couple ideas for pages in the near future.  If you have any suggestions for needed Wiki content, please speak up (or add it yourself).

     

    Dave

  • Dave,

    It might help too if you would have the following link from abugsworstnightmare post above

    .........   3.) I've named it XDC Tools with this URL: http://software-dl.ti.com/dsps/dsps_public_sw/sdo_ccstudio/TargetContent/Updates/full/site.xml

     updated on BOTH the Grace Wiki Page and  the TI  Grace page specifically catagorized for "Core Users"  as pages were where I got MY instructions from and, needless to say, failed horriblely all afternoon trying to install it.  His solution Works -- the instructions given using the  url: http://software-dl.ti.com/dsps/dsps_public_sw/sdo_ccstudio/TargetContent/Updates/full  do not. 

    Let me explain -- Using the link provide on Wiki and TI there is no "drop down list"  created to select JUST the XDCTools from that are required for grace - instead --- you get an entire list of updates you CANNOT select from -- going forward you are telling the update tool you want ALL available updates -- attempting this type update  WILL cause failure as the list obviously  contains updates that are incompatible with the core version which I am using.  Unfortunately I've uninstalled and reintsalled the program so the error file is gone to show these failures.

    What happens when using abugs like is the program creates the target contents folder for you -- after installation you will then have the dropdown box

    Did this make sense?

    .

    Anyways -- With abugs  work around I'm a happy camper ..........  THANKS

     

     


    Mark

  • John,

    Well, I opened in this morning and Grace had dissapeared.  Go figure....

    Above is my log file.  Please have someone get back to me on this issue

    Mark

     

  • Mark,

    Did you ever get Grace to work in your system? Your eclipse log indicates some kind of a file access problem. Not sure how you ended up in this state. The only solution I have is to delete grace from your system and do a fresh install from the update site.

    Regards

    Amit

  • Hi David,

    You have to install XDCtools through the eclipse update manager. Detailed instructions are available at http://processors.wiki.ti.com/index.php/Grace_Installation

    David Ferreira said:
    Fail at step 3: Click checkbox for the "Target Content Updates"

    In your particular case you have to enter the update site http://software-dl.ti.com/dsps/dsps_public_sw/sdo_ccstudio/TargetContent/Updates/full/ in the eclipse update manager. This is required for the code limited version of CCS4.20. Please refer to the Grace installation instructions page for more details.

    You should then see the following screen shot in the eclipse update site. Select both Grace 1.0.0.56-eng and XDCtools 3.21.0.27-eng and follow the wizard instructions.

     

     

    Please let us know if this worked for you.

    Regards

    Amit

     

  • Amit,

    Nope.... and this is my 5th attempt (3 times after complete removal and clean installs - the last with Eclipce installed to My root directory and ran as administrator)

    It's not in help, not in plug-ins, not in feature details -- can't call if from anywhere.

    However, I can see it as being installed in in the "View Installation History". 

    I think; with the efforts, time and frustration with this I'm about ready to throw in the towel and move on....  Most people would at this point........

    Any help here would be appreciated.

    Mark 

  • Mark,

    Will you be open to a quick webex so that I can take a look at your setup. 

    Regards

    Amit

  • Amit,  awaiting your directions..

    Mark

  • Thanks for all your help Amit! All is well.

  • I'm also having trouble installing Grace.  I downloaded XDC tools version 3.20.8.88 through CCS because it was the only version listed.  After that, XDC tools stopped appearing under Target Content Updates.  

    Grace wouldn't install because it was an incorrect version of XDC, so I upgraded to 3.22.0.09, but Grace will not install with that version either.  I did not see the correct version on the site that I checked:

    http://software-dl.ti.com/dsps/dsps_public_sw/sdo_sb/targetcontent/rtsc/

    Is there another way to download the correct version of XDC tools?  Thanks very much

  • Buff,

    Where and when did you get Grace?  It sounds like you're trying to get an early beta release to work.

    If you go to www.ti.com/grace, you'll find a link to download the installer to the production release of Grace v1.00.  This installer will install both a Grace folder and an XDCtools 3.21 folder parallel to your ccsv4 folder.

    More detailed installations instructions can be found at http://processors.wiki.ti.com/index.php/Grace_Installation.

    Please let me know if anything is unclear or if you have further difficulties.

    Dave

  • Thanks very much, I have it working now.  

     

    I tried to install it using the installer and failed.  I tried to install it through CCS software updates and failed.  I used the installer again, and realized that the installer put Grace in the wrong folder for CCS to see it - once I moved it, it worked.  Apparently CCS won't see it if it's in ..\Texas Instruments - I placed it in ..\Texas Instruments\CCS41update.  

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