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INA105: A/D converter with unity Gain buffer (1V/1V)

Part Number: INA105
Other Parts Discussed in Thread: THS4271, INA143, LM7705, TLV9002, OPA310

Tool/software:

Hi!

Need verificaion if the op-amp INA105 will suffice in my design.

- Using PicoLog ADC 24 for measuring a voltage regulated "PID" card (old school equipment ASEA) -15 - 15 VDC.

- Voltage divider 15VDC -> 2.5VDC (Max input voltage for the A/D converter is 2.5V)

- Problem: the AD converter has 24 inputs and have a low impedance input. The number og of input levels can drift the voltage significantly. Also, here is too much current being drawn from the cards. The voltage dividers makes the Data Logger inputs become even lower in resistance in comparison to the divider. By adding a inti gain buffer should take care of this problem, however my knowledge of OP-AMPS are limited.

Critera: 

- Gain ratio 1/1V

- Package type DIP

I have been recommended the THS4271 chip, however this chip i waaay to small to hand solder.

See also pdf-file for overview

Best regards

Richard Møller

OPAMP_INA105-Voltagedivider with unity gain buffer for AD converter.pdf

  • Hey Richard,

    The INA105 is a difference amplifier, which has an op amp in the core, but is pre-configured for feedback in a specified gain. Additionally, it is a differential output amplifier.

    I believe a better selection for this application would be an operational amplifier, however, PDIP certainly limits your options. Are you willing do go to a more widely available package like SOIC? I find these to be reasonable to solder by hand.

    What resolution are you looking to measure? Also, what supply rail voltages are available? I see the note that recommended voltage will be installed.

    Best,
    Jerry

  • Hi Jerry,

    Thank you for answering!

    - SOIC package is fine.

    - Targeted ADC resolution is ±156 mV

    - Rail voltage available 5V (USB) else I will install a fitting supply

    Best,

    Richard M.

  • Hey Richard,

    Sorry for the delay in response, SOIC opens many doors. You could use an integrated difference amplifier, however, the outputs will not swing all the way to either rail, so you will begin to lose accuracy close to 0V. Additionally, there is not a 1/6 ratio difference amplifier, the closest you can get without exceeding the ADC input is 1/10th. Therefore, you would not have accurate sensing in the region from 3V-GND on the input. However, you would have great CMRR and offset error in the linear operating region of the device. The below picture is from the electrical characteristic table of the INA143.

    You can use the existing resistor divider and use a rail to rail input and output op amp, however, these are not perfect either, but you will lose accuracy much closer to your V- rail, however, if you select a CMOS amplifier, you will only lose linearity in the region from about 600mV to GND, assuming a 1/6 voltage divider and that the region of high linearity goes to 100mV from the rail. You will still get an output with these amplifiers all the way down to a few mV from V- to tens of mV from V-, but the linearity will begin to decline.

    This inaccuracy close to V- can be overcome with a small negative charge pump like the LM7705. This will allow the op amps to swing close to V-

    In this case, I would recommend a device like the TLV9002, or the OPA310.

    If you know the time of acquisition (dictated by sampling rate), the value of the sample and hold cap, you may use this information to calculate the bandwidth of amplifier that you need for this application. The Analog Engineers Calculator: https://www.ti.com/tool/ANALOG-ENGINEER-CALC has a calculator for this!

    This had arbitrary values assigned for acquisition time and Csh, but based on your accuracy requirement and your full scale range, I'm estimating 8 bits of resolution on the ADC.

    It's also worth noting that I would recommend selecting an amplifier with about 5x the bandwidth for comfortable margin. In production, there is a large variance in UGBW of amplifiers, so guardbanding this parameter heavily is recommended.

    Best,
    Jerry

  • Wow, thank you Jerry for the help!

    Mutch appriciated!

    Best

    Richard M.

  • Happy to help Richard!

    Feel free to post again if you run into any issues down the road!

    Best,
    Jerry