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LMH6505: LMH6505 gain temperature coefficient

Part Number: LMH6505
Other Parts Discussed in Thread: VCA820, VCA822, VCA821, VCA824

Hi, 

We are using the LMH6505, its gain will change with the temperature. I want to ask

-The left gain coefficient of temperature, do we can use right gain forum to calcualte?

-If the above right, actually gain forum temperature coefficient is up by Vc?

-If the above right, what is the Vc temperature coefficient?

-BTW, if any other VGA chip with less gain temperature coefficient than LMH6505? 

Best Regards,

Kent

  • Hello Kent,

       This formula does not relate to gain changing with temperature as you have shown in Figure 1. Rather, this formula refers to how the theoretical gain could be compared to the actual gain measured at a certain Vg. K in this context refers to the gain multiplier, rather than a temperature coefficient, which is given as a spec in the electrical characteristics table. The components within the exponential is meant to represent the error function for a Vg range. This is meant to be modeled as a "best fit line" for the typical gain shown in Figure 42. If you would like to know how gain changes over temperature, you should refer to the typical performance characteristics plots that note temperature (such as Figure 4 and 10) as well as the figure you have attached to your post, Figure 1. 

    Thank you,

    SIma

  • Hi Sima,

    Thank a lot for you reply, it is very helpful, but I still be confused something,

    #1,  The theroretical gain forum include Vc factor, Vc is 79mV at room temperature, what voltage is Vc at other temperature?

    #2, For Fig10, index the gain change with temperature, right? But vertical axial is S21, what mean?

    #2, 

    Best Regards,

    Kent

  • Hello Kent,

       Unfortunately, we are unsure of the Vc measurement at other temperatures; since, it seems like the number was derived to model the typical gain at only room temperature. This can be seen in Figure 42 as one trend for one temperature. S21 refers to the s-parameters of a two port network analyzer to measure reflection/transmission characteristics received at port 2 relative to port 1, with the setup shown in the figure below. Generally it refers to the forward voltage/power gain, but in this case it is the gain control (magnitude and phase). 

    Thank you,

    Sima

  • Hey Kent, 

    The LMH6505 is incidentally the VIP10 replacement for the CBICU2 CLC520 device with dB/V  gain adjust. The dB/V versions were intended to be inside a AGC loop servo'ing to a target Vpp or Vrms. 

    We also did these at BurrBrown as the VC82x series where there are low and high speed dB/V and low and high speed V/V - the latter (like the original CLC522) is more intended for open loop set a Vg and hope for a particular gain with modest errors include tempco. So, if 150Mhz channel BW is enough, look at the  (they might have better specs). 

    VCA820 for dB/V gain adjust or

    VCA822 for V/V gain adjsut

    and for 700MHz versions, 

    VCA821 dB/V

    or 

    VCA824 V/V