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OPA637: OPA637 distortion problem

Part Number: OPA637
Other Parts Discussed in Thread: OPA2132, , OPA627, OPA37, OPA828

The following figure parameters, Part of IV. There was no noise when using OPA627 or OPA2132 before. When using OPA637, if the gain was too large, the signal would be distorted. Turn down the volume at the current end, the sound break still exist, why?

It is found that when OPA637 is used in IV conversion and the feedback resistance is greater than 560R, the output has broken sound, broken sound disappear when the feedback resistance is less than 560R. But in the LPF part of the latter stage, the other circuits are the same.

In order to meet the stable gain (5db) of OPA637, the feedback resistance is changed from 620R to 3.2K. When the signal source is silent, there is more noise. If the feedback resistance is unchanged and continued use 620R, the gain and noise will be much less. But 620R used in other amplifiers’ feedback circuit, it have no similar noise.

LPF output LOUT uses a 10K adjustable potentiometer for volume control. When the front-end signal is silent, the torsional potentiometer and the low-frequency horn diaphragm will move greatly. In the process of volume increase, the horn diaphragm moves inward, the volume decreases, and the horn diaphragm moves outward. And the amplitude of the movement is related to the speed of the potentiometer. The faster the torsion speed, the greater the amplitude of the diaphragm moves. When the torsion stops, the diaphragm will return to its normal position. When the feedback resistance is large, the motion of the diaphragm will be more obvious. Other op-amps will not have this phenomenon. In the process of adjusting the volume, the horn diaphragm moves, and there is noise similar to white noise. In the process of adjusting the volume, the noise from 30% to 90% is basically low-frequency noise. When the volume is over 90%, the noise jumps directly to high-frequency noise.

Is there any reference design for OPA637 used as LPF part? Thank you very much.

  • Thanks for the schematic Pei,,

    In any of the transimpedance applications, it is necessary to know the source capacitance to assess phase margin and noise. What is the estimated capacitance, including cabling or trace capacitance looking back towards IoutL +/-

  • Also, your differential to single ended MFB filter using the OPA637 risks instability due to the feedback cap. since the OPA637 is a decomp amplifier You can probably fix that with about a 499pF cap to ground on its inverting node. 

    What supplies are you using/need. 

  • Hello Pei,

    Michael brings up valid points about the phase margin that needs to be assessed and assured when attempting to apply an undercompensated Op amp such as the OPA37 in a TIA application circuit. I suspect there is a stability issue with one or more of the OPA37 stages. You should be able to verify that using a 10x probe and wide bandwidth DSO. Any instability will completely obliterate the noise performance of the circuit.

    The OPA37 is a 30+ year old Op amp. It is a very good precision Op amp, but you can't depend on legacy amplifiers being available indefinitely. There are newer precision Op amps that provide the wide bandwidth and low noise of the OPA37, and unlike the OPA37 are unity-gain stable. The Op amp I would recommend for this application is the OPA828. You can find the OPA828 datasheet here:

    http://www.ti.com/lit/ds/symlink/opa828.pdf

    I think you will find it is easier to apply this newer Op amp.

    Regards, Thomas

    Precision Amplifiers Applications Engineering

  • And Pei,

    That OPA828 looks like a great part - but you should start with the required supply voltages - there are quite a few choices out there and the minimum supplies screens things quickly - then we go on to the desired gain, signal bandwidth and source capacitance to determine the min required GBP. 

  • Thank for you kindly help, I will test what you said.

  • Hi Michael,

    OPA637 has a 20MHz carrier when it is static. Is this causing noise when it is used as an LPF and requires a stable gain of ≥5?
    Thank you!
  • Apparently oscillating, can you provide 

    1. TINA file of modified circuit so we know for sure what you are doing

    2. Where you are probing and with what

    3. Minimum power supplies you can work with for desired signal 

    two issues, 

    1. can we get the current circuit in hardware to work

    2. should the current circuit be migrated to different parts and what would those be?