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TAS6584-Q1: Please review the schematic

Part Number: TAS6584-Q1
Other Parts Discussed in Thread: TAS6424E,

Tool/software:

Dear TI experts,

My customer drew their first schematic with TAS6584QPHDRQ1.

Could you review it and suggest something for better schematic?

8. USB_BUFFER_AMP_BT_WiFi.pdf

Best regards,

Chase

  • Chase,

    1.  pin 14/15, pin 19 are not referenced to PLL_GND.  please change it to referenced to GND.

    2.  remove PLL_GND and GND connection

    3. how does the AMP_ON net is controlled?  please use a 3.3Kohm pull down resistor for this PD pin, to make sure there is a fixed voltage applied.

    4. Output LC filter need to be 10uH+1uF+0.22uH+0.1uF.  and PWM frequency should use 480KHz.

    I notice the PVDD is 12V only, then why use TAS6584 here? this device is a high power device intended to be >40V level, also much higher cost.  for 12V level, TAS6424E is best choice.

    Dylan

  • Dear Dylan,

    Thank you for your support.

    Answer 1,2,3 : applied to the schematic.

    Answer 4 : TAS6584-Q1 supports 384-kHz to 2.1-MHz configurable output switching frequency (datasheet says)

    And 2MHz frequency is referenced in SLOA337 document. Is there any reason to apply 480KHz?

    (my customer says that they have many choices for the price choosing inductor.)

    Finally, They already know that TAS6424E is cheaper but they should use TAS6584 because of the space of PCB.

    Please check again about answer 4.

    Best regards,

    Chase

  • Chase,

    2.1MHz can be used, while it is not competitive when compared with TAS6424E.  The point need to take care is:  Schottky diodes has to be used for 2.1MHz. similar as datasheet Figure 9-2 Typical 2-channel PBTL application schematic

    If your customer accept this cost increment due to device and additional Schottky diode, that is good.

    Dylan

  • Dear Dylan,

    Thank you for your support.

    My customer said that they use 4 speakers which impedance is 40 ohm each (maximum power is 20W each). So they think that they consider figure 9-1, not figure 9-2. There is not a reference about using schottky diodes in figure 9-1.

    Is it necessary to apply schottky diodes in this case?

    Best regards,

    Chase

  • Chase, 

    There must be some information wrong. it makes no sense to use a PBTL mode to drive 40-ohm load and only 20W power requirement.  It makes no sense from a HW engineer point of view.  Can you get clear everything first?  i see meaningless continue the talk.

    Is it necessary to apply schottky diodes in this case?

    For PBTL mode, Schottky diode is must have. 

    Dylan

  • Dear Dylan

    We are a company that is designing using TAS6584-Q1.
    Since the schedule is tight, I am contacting you directly for cross-checking.

    If you use 4-channel 4-ohm speakers using BTL mode instead of PBTL mode, you can refer to the datasheet Figure 9-1, and Shottky Diode seems unnecessary.

    Is that correct?

    If you have any other advice on the circuit, please share.

    Thank you.

  • Hi KISUK

    If you use 4-channel 4-ohm speakers using BTL mode instead of PBTL mode, you can refer to the datasheet Figure 9-1, and Shottky Diode seems unnecessary.

    Is that correct?

    Yes, that is correct.

    And for your previous 40ohm load, PBTL also won't be helpful. Because PBTL only could provide larger current, used under very low resistance load like 2ohm/1ohm. PBTL can't provide large voltage, which is PVDD decided. Your 40ohm and 20W using, requires large voltage, not current.

  • I just saw the 40ohm text.
    It's not 40ohm, it's 4ohm.

    I clearly conveyed the text as 4ohm, but I think the text was misconstrued in the middle.
    Your answer was helpful. Thank you.
    Merry Christmas.

  • Hi Merry

      OK, no problem, Using BTL is fine for you.