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TFP401A: the state of QE/QO-pins when Rx-pins are open

Part Number: TFP401A
Other Parts Discussed in Thread: TFP401

Hi team,

1. Could you tell the state of QE/QO-pins when Rx-pins are open? It seems that the state of QE/QO-pins are uncertain when Rx-pins are open. Are there any describtions about this in the datasheet?

2. Are there anyways to prevent the uncertain state of the ouptut when the inputs are open? 

3. Customer mentions that the voltage level of the uncertain state can vary depeding on devce and sometime the uncertain singal can affect the device operation that is connected to QE/QO-pins. Are there any comments on this?

Regards,

Noriyuki Takahashi

  • Noriyuki-san:

        This ticket was assigned and will response soon.

    Regards

    brian

  • Noriyuki-san

    Are they pulled PDO low? Pulling PDO low places all the output drivers, except CTL1 and SCDT, into a high-impedance state.

    An internal pullup on the PDO pin defaults the TFP401/401A to the normal non power-down output drive mode if left unconnected.

    Thanks

    David

  • David,

    PDO is pulled up by 3.3V with 10kOhm. Do you mean that they should pull PDO-pin low to prevent  the uncertain state of QE/QO-pins?

    They want to prevent that the state of QE/QO-pins are uncertain, becasuse the uncertain state can damage the device that is connected with QE/QO-pins. Are their any comments on this?

     

    Regards,

    Noriyuki Takahashi

  • Noriyuki-san

    Pulling PDO down would put the output drivers into power-down state. During output drive power down state, the output drivers (except SCDT and CTL1) are driven to a high-impedance state.

    You can tie SCDT externally to PDO to power down the output drivers when the link is inactive.

    Thanks

    David

  • David,

    Please let me make sure again.

    1. Customer understands that the state of QE/QO-pins become the indefinite output when Rx-pins are open. Is this the indefinite output described in the datasheet as the known behavior?

    The FPGA connected to QE/QO-pins can receive the the indefinite signals and work unexpectedly. 

    2. If QE/QO-pins enter in the power-donw mode, are the outputs fixed to Low or High level?  They would like to know how to solve

    Pulling PDO down would put the output drivers into power-down state.

    They would like to know how to solve that FPGA can recieve the indefinite signals and work unexpectedly.

    Regards,

    Noriyuki Takahashi 

  • Noriyuki-san

    Have they tried to pull the PDO low and see the FPGA can correctly receive the signal?

    Thanks

    David 

  • David,

    Not yet. They want to confirm these questions in advance.

    Regards,

    Noriyuki Takahashi

  • Noriyuki-san

    1. Customer understands that the state of QE/QO-pins become the indefinite output when Rx-pins are open. Is this the indefinite output described in the datasheet as the known behavior?

    No, the datasheet only says "An internal pullup on the PDO pin defaults the TFP401/401A to the normal nonpower-down output drive mode if left unconnected."

    The FPGA connected to QE/QO-pins can receive the the indefinite signals and work unexpectedly. 

    2. If QE/QO-pins enter in the power-donw mode, are the outputs fixed to Low or High level?  They would like to know how to solve

    I believe they will be driven low in this particular case.

    Thanks

    David