TLIN2021A-Q1: TLIN2021A-Q1 Termination of INH pin for floating INH pin.

Part Number: TLIN2021A-Q1
Other Parts Discussed in Thread: TIDM-02013, LMG3522R030, ISO7710, TSD36C-Q1

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Hi Team, Please let me know what termination we should use for floating INH pin.

  • Also, what termination to be used with Wake pin.

  • In most cases, leave the INH pin unconnected if unused, as it is designed for this. If your EV charger design (referencing your prior question) involves sensitive power management or operates in a noisy environment, a 100 kΩ pull-down resistor to ground is a safe choice to stabilize the pin when floating. Verify with your system’s power management requirements and test for EMI robustness.

  • Thanks for your suggestion for INH pin. Also let us know about the termination for not connected Wake pin.

  • The WAKE pin on the TLIN2021A-Q1 LIN transceiver is a high-voltage, high-impedance input used for local wake-up detection, typically to transition the device from sleep mode to standby mode via a low-going pulse. According to the TLIN2021A-Q1 datasheet, if the WAKE pin is not used in your application (e.g., no external wake-up switch or signal is implemented), it should be properly terminated to prevent unintended wake-up events due to noise or floating pin behavior in the noisy automotive environment of your EV charger design. Please DO THIS: 

    For your EV charger using the TIDM-02013 reference, connect a 33 kΩ pull-up resistor from the WAKE pin to VSUP if the pin is unused. Verify with your system’s EMI environment and test for stable sleep mode operation.                                  WHAT DON'T?:

    No Floating: Do not leave the WAKE pin unconnected, as its high-impedance nature makes it susceptible to noise-induced false wake-ups, especially in automotive systems with EMI from switching components like the LMG3522R030 GaN FETs in your design.

  • Thanks for suggestion. we will implement as described. One information. We are using this device in infotainment/cluster application. With sensor connected on LIN for reverse parking.

  • EMI Risk:  high-frequency/noise  EMI can disrupt the LIN bus, causing data errors or false triggers. Most modules won’t handle this well.

    • Fix: Add ferrite beads, 100 nF capacitors, short LIN traces, and a ground plane. Consider shielding or isolation (e.g., ISO7710). 

    Tip: EMI control and testing are critical for reliable alerts. Good luck!

  •  Please review our circuit. Also where to add ferrite and capacitor as per your earlir post. on VBUS line.

  • Filtering the LIN bus (LIN pin)
    The LIN bus is a single-wire, low-speed communication line. Adding filtering components can help suppress noise coupled onto the line from external sources and reduce the transceiver's emissions. 
    • Placement: Place a ferrite bead and capacitors close to the LIN pin of the TLIN2021.
    • Component arrangement:
      • Add a ferrite bead in series with the LIN trace.
      • Connect a small capacitor (e.g., a 100 pF ceramic capacitor) from the LIN trace to ground on the device side of the ferrite bead. This will help with high-frequency filtering and ESD protection.
  • Hi Manoj,

    Please see my feedback below:

    • Remove one of the pullup resistors on the LIN bus. The LIN standard says the commander node should only have 1k Ohm pullup resistance.
    • I would recommend replacing SZNUP1105 with a 36 V TVS diode like TSD36C-Q1 if you plan on using this for 24 V applications.
    • I would NOT reccomend adding 100 nF capacitors to the bus as Sunilbhai suggested earlier. The max allowable capacitance on a LIN bus is 10 nF, so 100 nF will cause issues. 

    Outside of that everything else looks good. 

    Regards,

    Matt 

  • Corrected Recommendation:

    • Ferrite Bead: Place a ferrite bead (e.g., BLM21PG221SN1, 220 Ω at 100 MHz) in series with the TLIN2021A-Q1 LIN pin, close to the pin (<1 cm), to suppress EMI.
    • Capacitor: Use a 100 pF (not 100 nF) ceramic capacitor from the LIN pin to ground on the device side of the ferrite bead for high-frequency filtering and ESD protection.
    • LIN Pull-Up: Ensure a single 1 kΩ pull-up to VSUP at the commander node, removing extras.
    • TVS Diode: Use a 36 V TVS diode (e.g., TSD36C-Q1) for 24 V applications.
    • Test: Verify LIN bus signal integrity (rise/fall times <5 µs) with an oscilloscope.                                                                                                                         

      LIN Bus Context

      • LIN Bus Characteristics:
        • Data rate: Up to 20 kbps (50 µs bit time).
        • Maximum bus capacitance: 10 nF (per ISO 17987) to maintain signal rise/fall times (<5 µs).
        • Typical bus impedance: Includes a 1 kΩ pull-up resistor at the commander node and the bus’s parasitic capacitance (from wiring, nodes, etc.).
        • The TLIN2021A-Q1 LIN pin interfaces with a single-wire bus, and external filtering must suppress EMI (e.g., >100 kHz from automotive noise sources) while preserving signal timing.
      • Purpose of 100 pF Capacitor: Placed from the LIN pin to ground (after a ferrite bead), it filters high-frequency noise (e.g., EMI from switching components) and enhances ESD protection, as recommended in my corrected advice.

      Calculation

      1. Impact on Bus Capacitance:
        • The LIN specification allows a total bus capacitance of 10 nF (10,000 pF). This includes contributions from all nodes, wiring, and added components.
        • A 100 pF capacitor per node (e.g., at the TLIN2021A-Q1) is a small fraction of this limit: 100 pF10,000 pF=0.01 (1% of max capacitance)\frac{100 \, \text{pF}}{10,000 \, \text{pF}} = 0.01 \, (1\% \text{ of max capacitance})10,000pF100pF=0.01(1% of max capacitance)
        • Even with multiple nodes (e.g., 4–8 sensors for reverse parking), the total added capacitance (e.g., 8 × 100 pF = 800 pF) remains well below 10 nF, leaving room for wiring parasitics (~1–2 nF typical).
      2. RC Time Constant with Pull-Up:
        • The LIN bus has a 1 kΩ pull-up resistor at the commander node. The time constant (τ\tauτ) for a 100 pF capacitor is: τ=R×C=1 kΩ×100 pF=100 ns\tau = R \times C = 1 \, \text{k}\Omega \times 100 \, \text{pF} = 100 \, \text{ns}τ=R×C=1kΩ×100pF=100ns
        • LIN signal rise/fall times must be <5 µs (10% of bit time at 20 kbps). The 100 ns time constant is negligible compared to 5 µs: 100 ns5 µs=0.02 (2% of max rise time)\frac{100 \, \text{ns}}{5 \, \text{µs}} = 0.02 \, (2\% \text{ of max rise time})5µs100ns=0.02(2% of max rise time)
        • This ensures the 100 pF capacitor does not slow down signal edges enough to violate timing requirements.
      3. Filtering Effectiveness:
        • The 100 pF capacitor, paired with a ferrite bead (e.g., BLM21PG221SN1, 220 Ω at 100 MHz), forms a low-pass filter to suppress high-frequency EMI (e.g., >100 kHz from switching regulators or motors in your EV charger system).
        • Approximate cutoff frequency (fcf_cfc) for the RC filter (using the ferrite bead’s resistance at high frequency, ~220 Ω at 100 MHz): fc=12πRC=12π×220 Ω×100×10−12 F≈7.23 MHzf_c = \frac{1}{2 \pi R C} = \frac{1}{2 \pi \times 220 \, \Omega \times 100 \times 10^{-12} \, \text{F}} \approx 7.23 \, \text{MHz}fc=2πRC1=2π×220Ω×100×10−12F17.23MHz
        • This cutoff effectively attenuates EMI above 7 MHz, well above the LIN bus’s 20 kHz signal bandwidth, while passing LIN signals cleanly. For lower-frequency EMI (e.g., 100 kHz), the ferrite bead’s impedance increases, enhancing suppression.
      4. Comparison to 100 nF (Incorrect Choice):
        • A 100 nF capacitor would yield: τ=1 kΩ×100 nF=100 µs\tau = 1 \, \text{k}\Omega \times 100 \, \text{nF} = 100 \, \text{µs}τ=1kΩ×100nF=100µs This exceeds the 5 µs rise time limit, causing signal distortion and potential communication errors, confirming the other guide’s concern about violating the 10 nF limit (100 nF = 10× the max).

      Conclusion

      The 100 pF capacitor is appropriate because: (Iam very sorry for in previous post it was my mistake instead 100pf I had write 100nf.)

      • It contributes minimally to the 10 nF bus capacitance limit (1% per node).
      • Its 100 ns time constant preserves LIN signal timing (<5 µs rise/fall).
      • It effectively filters high-frequency EMI (>7 MHz) when paired with a ferrite bead, protecting the TLIN2021A-Q1 in your noisy automotive environment.

      Recommendation:

      • Place a 100 pF ceramic capacitor from the LIN pin to ground, after a ferrite bead (e.g., BLM21PG221SN1), close to the TLIN2021A-Q1 (<1 cm traces).
      • Verify total bus capacitance (nodes + wiring) remains <10 nF.
      • Test LIN bus signals with an oscilloscope to confirm clean edges and no errors during reverse parking sensor operation. I hope "aap ka Problem Solved HO Gaya Ho-Sunil from USA)