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DP83630 MDI Connections

Other Parts Discussed in Thread: DP83630

Hello all,

Now I am doing some modification of our PLC system to add DP83630 to enable IEEE1588.

Then I am referring your Application Note 1469 PHYTER® Design & Layout Guide Literature Number: SNLA079C.

The description regarding trace length matching is "within 2.0 inches" for MII or RMII on the manual.

However, I could not find out any particular trace length matching information for MDI (TP/CAT-V) Connections.

Could you let me know how long this length should be?

Thank you in advance for your information.

Best regards,

Atsushi Okui

  • Hello,

    Our reconmendation for MDI trace length is to keep the MDI traces as short as possible(see highlighted text).

    For example, on the DP83630 EVM modules we used MDI trace lengths in the 2 inch range. Regardless of the

    trace lengths you end up using, please follow the other MDI considerations as closely as possible.

    Thank you,

    John

    2.1 PCB LAYOUT CONSIDERATIONS

    • Place the 49.9 ohm,1% resistors, and 0.1μF decoupling

    capacitor, near the PHYTER TD+/- and RD+/- pins and via

    directly to the Vdd plane.

    • Stubs should be avoided on all signal traces, especially

    the differential signal pairs. 

    • Within the pairs (e.g. TD+ & TD-) the trace lengths should

    be run parallel to each other and matched in length.

    Matched lengths minimize delay differences, avoiding an

    increase in common mode noise and increased EMI. See

    • Ideally there should be no crossover or via on the signal

    paths. Vias present impedance discontinuities and should

    be minimized. Route an entire trace pair on a single layer

    if possible.

    PCB trace lengths should be kept as short as possible.

    • Signal traces should not be run such that they cross a

    plane split. See Figure 4. A signal crossing a plane split

    may cause unpredictable return path currents and would

    likely impact signal quality as well, potentially creating EMI

    problems.

    • MDI signal traces should have 50 ohm to ground or 100

    ohm differential controlled impedance. 

  • Hello, thank you for your prompt reply.

    I have one additional question regarding this description as below;

    Do you have any particular tolerance on the trace length difference between each TD+ & TD- or RD+ & RD- pair?

    Thank you in advance for your information.

    Best regards,

  • Hello,

    The TD+/- pair should be matched as closely as possible as should the RD+/- pair.

    Within the pairs (e.g. TD+ & TD-) the trace lengths should

    be run parallel to each other and matched in length.

    Matched lengths minimize delay differences, avoiding an

    increase in common mode noise and increased EMI.

    Thanks, John