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DP83822IF: capacity of equalization

Part Number: DP83822IF
Other Parts Discussed in Thread: DP83867IR

Hi all

Would you mind if we ask DP83822IF?
We guess that DP83822If has equalization function.
How much is the capacity of  equalization? XXdB?
And, is it possible to change the equalization level using hidden register setting?
(If it contains confidential content, could you send it directly?)
E-mail : matsumoto-h@clv.macnica.co.jp

Kind regards,

Hirotaka Matsumoto

  • Hello,

    Our recommendation is to not change registers which are not listed in the datasheet. Could you provide more details about the application and why changing equalization is needed?

    -Regards,
    Aniruddha
  • Hi Aniruddha san

    Thank you for your reply!

    Could you provide more details about the application and why changing equalization is needed?
    ->Our customer uses twisted pairs 30mm cable instead of CAT5E cable for 1000Base-T. So, we would like to break down the issue into parts whether this problem causes of cable or not.
       So, according to increasing equalization level, if the problem solve, we understand that it depends on cable.
       Of course, we recognize that our customer should use CAT5E cable.

    Kind regards,

    Hirotaka Matsumoto

  • Hello Matsumoto-san,

    Thank you for additional information. Can you also elaborate on the problem seen by customer? Is it link instability?

    Changing unreleased registers can affect other functionality of the PHY and can result in unexpected behavior. Instead I would recommend doing a test with Cat5E cable to check if the problem is resolved. I will also recommend checking if the cable and connector are rated for Ethernet use.

    -Regards,
    Aniruddha
  • Aniruddha san

    Thank you for your reply always!
    Can you also elaborate on the problem seen by customer? Is it link instability?
    ->Yes, the link is instability. As the condition, it occurs link up and link down.
       Our customer's configuration is follows;
       DP83867 <-> Pulse trans <-> Connector <-> Cable(30mm) <-> Connector <-> Pulse trans <-> Micrel's Giga phy
       About cable, please refer to the attachment file.
    20170823_DP83867's_cable.pdf

    And then, pulse trans is satisfied with requirements which you mentioned insersion loss, return loss, turn ration, Cross talk, Differential to Common Rejection ratio and Isolation. 

    We assume that it is not relation to RGMII I/F like as shifted mode and aligned mode.
    We guess that it depends on follows;
    -Pulse trans <-> Connector <-> Cable(30mm) <-> Connector <-> Pulse trans
    -Auto negotiation setting between DP83867 and Micrel's phy

    And then, we suggest that our customer uses CAT5E cable and RJ45 connector.

    If you have some additional comments, could you give us?

    Kind regards,

    Hirotaka Matsumoto

    Pulse trans

  • Hello Matsumoto-san,

    In the initial description of the problem, the device is listed as DP83822IF. In the latest description, the device is listed as DP83867. Can you confirm which device is on the system along with the exact variant? Also which Micrel link partner is used?

    -Regards,
    Aniruddha
  • Aniruddha san

    We really apologize that we incorrectly wrote device number.
    The correct device No is "DP83867IR" Giga Phy.

    TI's phy : DP83867IR(Giga Phy)
    Micrel phy : KSZ9031(Giga Phy)

    Kind regards,

    Hirotaka Matsumoto