TPS65987D: TPS65987D compliance test questions

Peter Chen(ICP_FAE)

Intellectual 2480 points

Part Number: TPS65987D
Other Parts Discussed in Thread: TPS65987

customer reported the following 2 questions about TPS65987D compliance test.

Can team review the issues and advise about the what setting missing in FW.

over 6 years ago

0 Jacob Ontiveros over 6 years ago

TI__Expert 6280 points

Hi Peter,

Could you confirm that the latest firmware patch used for testing?

Jacob

0 Peter Chen(ICP_FAE) over 6 years ago in reply to Jacob Ontiveros

TI__Intellectual 2480 points

HI Jacob,

are you saying the latest Ellisys tool to perform the testing? Do you mean that these 2 error might be related to testing tool? I will ask customer try latest Ellisys tool version for good try again.

here is the version customer using.

0 Jacob Ontiveros over 6 years ago in reply to Peter Chen(ICP_FAE)

TI__Expert 6280 points

Hi Peter,

Can you also verify you are using the latest TPS65987D firmware? You can find the link below.

www.ti.com/.../tps6598x-config

Jacob

0 Peter Chen(ICP_FAE) over 6 years ago in reply to Jacob Ontiveros

TI__Intellectual 2480 points

Jacob,

customer do using the latest tool for TPS65987 configuration.

I am sending you the customer setting in mail for you review.

0 Peter Chen(ICP_FAE) over 6 years ago in reply to Peter Chen(ICP_FAE)

TI__Intellectual 2480 points

the latest firmware version customer using is TPS65987_88_F707_10_04.

According to testing lab about the item TD.PD.VND13.E12, if device does not support fast swapping, device need response "REJECT" not "No reponse to FR_Swap" . Can you review it and suggest the configuration in FW?

is the TD.PD.SRC.E16 issue due to VBUS discharge time too long? customer goes coupling capacitor design as the same as reference design. Can you review it and suggest your comments?

0 Jacob Ontiveros over 6 years ago in reply to Peter Chen(ICP_FAE)

TI__Expert 6280 points

Hi Peter.

I think this is just a Vendor Info File error for the first one. I suggest you use the latest from usb.org

www.usb.org/.../VendorInfoFileGeneratorRelease.1.2.4.0.zip

For the second issue it may be with your variable DC/DC. The transition from 5V to 12V is correct but it fails when transitioning down. The voltage on the power path may be too high to send PSRDY. You should check the voltage from your supply to confirm it is not higher than 5V.

Jacob

0 Patrick Chen over 6 years ago in reply to Jacob Ontiveros

Mastermind 8875 points

Hello Jacob,

Per above Peter's question, customer has one more question. If they provide VIF file and PD firmware to us. is it possible that we verify this 5V to 12V correct but fails when transitioning down issue by TI lab on our EVM to double confirm this issue root cause simultaneously ?

BR
Patrick

0 Patrick Chen over 6 years ago in reply to Patrick Chen

Mastermind 8875 points

Hello

Below is customer VIF file. Has any problem for the VIF file that will cause above issue phenomenon？ Thank you.

Fullscreen vif.txt Download

; 
; USB-IF Vendor Info File Generator, Version 1.2.4.0
; 

;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;
;   Intro tab
;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;
$VIF_Specification: "Revision 1.38, Version 1.0"
$VIF_Producer: "USB-IF Vendor Info File Generator, Version 1.2.4.0"
$Vendor_Name: "Ennoconn"
$Model_Part_Number: "cx7"
$Product_Revision: "v0.1"
$TID: "222"
VIF_Product_Type: 0        ; Port
$Port_Label: "1"

;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;
;   VIF Product tab
;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;
Connector_Type: 2        ; USB Type-C?
USB_PD_Support: YES
PD_Port_Type: 3        ; Provider Only
Captive_Cable: NO
Type_C_State_Machine: 0        ; SRC
Port_Battery_Powered: NO
BC_1_2_Support: 0        ; None

;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;
;   General PD Settings tab
;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;
PD_Specification_Revision: 2        ; Revision 3.0
SOP_Capable: YES
SOP_P_Capable: NO
SOP_PP_Capable: NO
SOP_P_Debug_Capable: NO
SOP_PP_Debug_Capable: NO
Security_Msgs_Supported_SOP: NO
Manufacturer_Info_Supported_Port: NO
Num_Fixed_Batteries: 0
Num_Swappable_Battery_Slots: 0
USB_Comms_Capable: NO
DR_Swap_To_DFP_Supported: NO
DR_Swap_To_UFP_Supported: NO
Unconstrained_Power: NO
VCONN_Swap_To_On_Supported: NO
VCONN_Swap_To_Off_Supported: YES
Responds_To_Discov_SOP_UFP: YES
Responds_To_Discov_SOP_DFP: YES
Attempts_Discov_SOP: YES
Chunking_Implemented_SOP: YES
Unchunked_Extended_Messages_Supported: YES

;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;
;   USB Type-C tab
;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;
RP_Value: 2        ; 3A
Type_C_Is_Debug_Target_SRC: NO
Type_C_Can_Act_As_Host: NO
Type_C_Can_Act_As_Device: NO
Type_C_Is_Alt_Mode_Controller: YES
Type_C_Power_Source: 0        ; Externally Powered
Type_C_Port_On_Hub: NO
Type_C_Supports_Audio_Accessory: NO
Type_C_Sources_VCONN: YES

;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;
;   Product Power tab
;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;
Product_Total_Source_Power_mW: 0        ; (0 mW)
Port_Source_Power_Type: 0        ; Assured

;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;
;   Source tab
;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;
PD_Power_as_Source: 36000        ; (36000 mW)
USB_Suspend_May_Be_Cleared: YES
Sends_Pings: YES
FR_Swap_Supported_As_Source: NO
PD_OC_Protection: NO
Num_Src_PDOs: 2

    Src_PDO_Supply_Type1: 0        ; Fixed
    Src_PDO_Peak_Current1: 0        ; 100% IOC
    Src_PDO_Voltage1: 100        ; (5000 mV)
    Src_PDO_Max_Current1: 300        ; (3000 mA)

    Src_PDO_Supply_Type2: 0        ; Fixed
    Src_PDO_Peak_Current2: 0        ; 100% IOC
    Src_PDO_Voltage2: 240        ; (12000 mV)
    Src_PDO_Max_Current2: 300        ; (3000 mA)

;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;
;   SOP Discovery - Part One tab
;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;
XID_SOP: 0
Data_Capable_as_USB_Host_SOP: NO
Data_Capable_as_USB_Device_SOP: NO
Product_Type_UFP_SOP: 0        ; Undefined
Product_Type_DFP_SOP: 0        ; Undefined
Modal_Operation_Supported_SOP: YES
USB_VID_SOP: 0x0451
PID_SOP: 0x1234
bcdDevice_SOP: 0x0710

;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;
;   SOP Discovery - Part Two tab
;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;
SVID_fixed_SOP: YES
Num_SVIDs_min_SOP: 1
Num_SVIDs_max_SOP: 1

    SVID1_SOP: 0x0123
    SVID1_modes_fixed_SOP: YES
    SVID1_num_modes_min_SOP: 1
    SVID1_num_modes_max_SOP: 1

        SVID1_mode1_enter_SOP: YES

Patrick

0 delun kao over 6 years ago in reply to Jacob Ontiveros

Intellectual 270 points

HI Jacob,

We tested with the latest VIF, the results of the test became even worse, and the wrong project was added.

The test report is attached, in addition to updating the VIF version, the VBUS 1uf capacitor is also removed synchronously.

Please help us with suggestions. thanks

BR, Delunhttps://e2e.ti.com/cfs-file/__key/communityserver-discussions-components-files/138/Test_5F00_report.7z

0 delun kao over 6 years ago in reply to delun kao

Intellectual 270 points

Does need to use pdio in our case to fix issue?

0 Peter Chen(ICP_FAE) over 6 years ago in reply to delun kao

TI__Intellectual 2480 points

Hello Jacob,

I summarize the issue in here. attaching is the report testing with the latest VIF file from USB org.

here is the only issue we would like to focus on this. Can we learn from you about how to fix this failed? thanks.

full testing reports and the USB VIF

https://e2e.ti.com/cfs-file/__key/communityserver-discussions-components-files/138/4760.TPS65987-test-report.7z

0 Peter Chen(ICP_FAE) over 6 years ago in reply to delun kao

TI__Intellectual 2480 points

hello Jacob,

I summarize the issue in here. This is the only failed we would like to focus on. Can we learn from you how to fix the issue?

I am attaching the full test report with latest VIF file from USB org.

test report

https://e2e.ti.com/cfs-file/__key/communityserver-discussions-components-files/138/0876.TPS65987-test-report.7z

0 Jacob Ontiveros over 6 years ago in reply to Peter Chen(ICP_FAE)

TI__Expert 6280 points

Hi Team,

For reference you need to only run RC or Stable tests for certification.

You should run this specific test while looking at the voltage on VBUS and your varaiable DC/DC. PSRDY is only sent when the voltage has reached the PD contract value.

How are you controlling the variable DC/DC?

What do you mean by "Does need to use pdio in our case to fix issue?" ?

Jacob

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