DS80PCI102: Eye pattern error

Shu-Cheng LIN

Part Number: DS80PCI102

Hi Sirs,

Sorry to bother you.

I put the TI model and PCB SNP file in .zip for you to download
Currently testing the output of TI's Redriver model... after entering PCB2 (1.2 inch)
Voltage attenuation is very serious... adjusting EQ/DE does not improve output
We use the ADS Tool to do the simulation:
Please help me confirm the adjustability of this model.

Thanks!!

over 6 years ago

0 Lee Sledjeski over 6 years ago

TI__Mastermind 43795 points

Hi,

How are the S8p ports connected?

Here is an example of PCB1. Port1 does not seem to be connected to any other port.

Thanks and Regards,

Lee

0 Shu-Cheng LIN over 6 years ago in reply to Lee Sledjeski

Guru 11785 points

Hi Sirs,

Thanks for your reply.

Your attachment example looks didn't successful showed on E2E.

Could you send again?

0 Shu-Cheng LIN over 6 years ago in reply to Shu-Cheng LIN

Guru 11785 points

Hi Sirs,

Looks our VOD is too small (around 0.2-0.3v)

Is it normal?

0 Shu-Cheng LIN over 6 years ago in reply to Shu-Cheng LIN

Guru 11785 points

Hi Sirs,

Sorry for pushed.

Have any update on this case?

0 Lee Sledjeski over 6 years ago in reply to Shu-Cheng LIN

TI__Mastermind 43795 points

Hi,

The channels you have sent as s8p do not seem to have normal through connections. In this example port 1 does not have a direct connection to ports 2-8. This would cause a low VOD in the simulation.

Regards,

Lee

0 Shu-Cheng LIN over 6 years ago in reply to Lee Sledjeski

Guru 11785 points

Hi Sirs,

Thanks for your reply.

Ermet_zd_pair_ab.s4p this connector the 1->3, 2->4 path are connected.
If still feels the connector is a problem, please ignore and to removed this connector

Our focus is on the voltage level can not be adjusted? why s8p do not seem to have normal through connections?

0 Lee Sledjeski over 6 years ago in reply to Shu-Cheng LIN

TI__Mastermind 43795 points

You should be able to adjust the voltage levels in the model. The AMI model has 8 levels of VOD adjustment.

It may be benefical for you to run the model in the example database to check out the model results. Then insert your own channels (s8p files) into this environment.

The connector is showing some non linear behavior, however the losses are quite low and would not interfere with increases in VOD.

How are the s8p channel files made, measured or simulated? I think there is some setting in this procedure which is not quite correct.

Regards,

Lee

0 Shu-Cheng LIN over 6 years ago in reply to Lee Sledjeski

Guru 11785 points

Hi Sirs,

Thanks for your reply.

Yes, you said the point is important

I know I can adjust... but how to adjust??
I adjusted it in the ADS tool but it didn't work.
Use the figure below to illustrate... there are two problems

First Question
Ignore Bits is selected... VOD_Level appears on the right
Select VOD_Level... but the DE_Level appears
Which one to choose? Which one to adjust??