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SN75DP130: panel screen blinking issue

Part Number: SN75DP130
Other Parts Discussed in Thread: SN75LVCP601, DS80PCI402

Hi~
we had designed SN75DP130  in our project and through external pin configuration to setting EQ(we don't use I2C I/F control)for PCB channel loss compensate
currently our system occur panel screen blinking, while we try to swap the cable(MB to front panel board) 
the failure symptom will disappear,could you please give me some suggestion and check our questions as below??

Q1: as below is our EQ configuration setting ,is it adaptive mode(low-rang EQ Gain) for our current setting??
Q2: as your experience,what EQ Gain(high-rang or Low-range) is suitable ??

[Panel spec] eDP 2.7Ghz 1 Lan
[intel CPU VBIOS setting] ]
pre-emphasis: 0dB
voltage swing: 200mV

[EQ configuration]
ADDR_EQ(pin 3)-->PD 4.7K
CAN_Sink(pin 10)->PD 1M

[PCB and Cable length]
MB PCB length(intel CPU to connector): ~ 5inch (FR4)
Cable length(MB-front panel board): ~33cm(100-ohm diff UL10064 AWG#32)
Front panel board(connector to DP130):~ 3.5inch (FR4)
Front panel board(DP130 to connector): ~1.4inch(FR4)
Cable length(connector to eDP panel):~18cm(100-ohm diff UL10064 AWG#32)

David

  • David

    When you try to swap the cable, (MB to front panel board), is this the cable you are swapping?

    Cable length(MB-front panel board): ~33cm(100-ohm diff UL10064 AWG#32)

    What is the other cable you used that causing the flicking to go away?

    Are you able to run the DP electrical compliance? If not, do you have a DP AUX monitor that can capture AUX link training traffic?

    Thanks

    David

  • Hi David

    thank for reply, please refer my reply as below, we assume it is compatible issue if we use marginal cable

    currently we are not sure our current setting is ideal or not ? therfeforce, it is why we ask your Q1 and Q2. 

    Q1: as below is our EQ configuration setting ,is it adaptive mode(low-rang EQ Gain) for our current setting??
    Q2: as your experience,what EQ Gain(high-rang or Low-range) is suitable ??

    When you try to swap the cable, (MB to front panel board), is this the cable you are swapping?

    Cable length(MB-front panel board): ~33cm(100-ohm diff UL10064 AWG#32)

    -->yes

    What is the other cable you used that causing the flicking to go away?

    -->we change the same one

    Are you able to run the DP electrical compliance? If not, do you have a DP AUX monitor that can capture AUX link training traffic?\

    -->we have run the electrical compliance on EVT stage ,the result is pass and we  will re-measure electrical compliance again while use defect cable

  • David

    For question 1, please refer to Table 1 of the SN75DP130 datasheet. For ADDR_EQ VIL and CAD_SNK VIL, the equalizer is fixed but will change the equalization level base on the link training level. 

    For question 2, it is system dependent. But if you swap to another cable and can get the flicking to go away and cables are the same, it sounds like you have a bad cable. 

    Thanks

    David 

  • Hi David

    thanks for reply,please check as below

    For question 2, it is system dependent. But if you swap to another cable and can get the flicking to go away and cables are the same, it sounds like you have a bad cable.

    -->the flicking symptom is not always appear, it is easy to reproduce while system burn in on chamber(TA:40 degree),we know the defect Cable have marginal signal quality,

       but if DP130 have unsuitable EQ setting plus defect Cable , i think  our system will easy  to occur data corruption,  it is why we would like to ask,

    as use your  other I/F part experience do you have reference data similar as below

    (SATA redriver(sn75lvcp601), PCIe repeater(ds80pci402) for example)

     

     

  • David

    Similar data is in section 7.8 of the DP130 datasheet. 

    With the marginal cable, I can't say for sure the root cause of the flicking issue is the equalizer setting. Do you have an AUX monitor that can capture the link training progress? This should give us more insight where the issue is.

    With EQ_I2C_ENABLE bit set to 0, the equalizer setting is fixed based on the snoop value of the link training. You could try to set the EQ_I2C_ENABLE bit to a 1, and then manually change the EQ setting to see if it improves the flicking behavior.

    Thanks

    David

  • Hi David

    thanks for reply, as below is our measurement result , defect cable seem weak than good cable.

    i  try to adjust swing and pre-emphasis from X86 output, then failure symptom will be disappear, 

    i will figure out best jitter margin when adjust x86 output or manually change the EQ setting.