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PCA9306: ViL

Part Number: PCA9306
Other Parts Discussed in Thread: TCA9800

Dear Team,

 Can you see what the ViL is when the IC is used at 3.3V?

The Datasheet does not mention it.

Appreciated

Kevin

  • Hi Kevin,

    Since PCA9306 uses a pass FET architecture, ViL is not a discrete value referenced internally by the device such - as what might be seen in a digital input buffer. For this device, ViL is essentially Vref1. Whenever the voltage on side 1 or 2 decrease below this value, the device begins to conduct, allowing the LOW to pass through from either side. For voltages above Vref1, the conduction is blocked. This allows a higher voltage to pullup on side 2 without propagating to side 1.

    A more in-depth explanation can be found here:
    e2e.ti.com/.../809936

    Let me know if you have any more questions regarding this device or how it may specifically fit into your application.

    Regards,
    Eric

  • Dear Eric,

    Thanks for the input.

    We have a IC PU6 that will outputs 0.6~0.85V I2C signal into PU4 but PU4 max ViL is only 0.4V.

    Do you have any I2C buffer or repeater that can accept 0.85V(@3.3V supply) as logic low and out  a voltage below 0.4V as logic low?

    BR

    Kevin

  • Hi Kevin,

    The TCA9800 family of buffers offers very low Vol on both sides. The low-level input voltages for these devices are 0.3xVcc which will allow communication with the PU6 device.

    Selecting which device you use from this family will be dependent on the data-rate of your system. Since it appears that a SVO is present on the A side of PU6, I would recommend putting the current source side of the TCA980x facing PU4. Keep in mind you will not need to add pull-up resistors on the current source side of the device (as you would have done with the PCA9306).

    Let me know if you have any other concerns.

    Regards,
    Eric

  • Dear Eric,

    Thanks for the information.

    Can both sides be used with 3.3V?
    The bottom test conditions seem to be VI=0V, but when VI=0.85V (still below 0.3*VCC), is the VOL still able to meet the underlying specifications (max <0.26)?

    BR

    Kevin

  • Hi Kevin,

    Can both sides be used with 3.3V?

    Yes, Vcca can be greater than, less than, or equal to Vccb.


    The bottom test conditions seem to be VI=0V, but when VI=0.85V (still below 0.3*VCC), is the VOL still able to meet the underlying specifications (max <0.26)?

    Yes. Since TCA980x devices act as true buffers rather than pass-FET devices. As long as the Vil threshold is crossed at the input, the subsequent driver will drive the other side to Vol

    Regards,

    Eric