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DS90C241: SERDES24-35USB design help

Part Number: DS90C241
Other Parts Discussed in Thread: DS90C124

Hi team,

What device does the digital video source use to input signal to the development board?
What kind of signal does the logic analyzer or oscilloscope observe?
The development board is SERDES24-35USB, and the digital video source is VG835.

Best regards,

  • Hi,

    The DS90C241 takes in a RGB parallel video source from your parallel video source (VG835). The DS90C124 outputs the same video data on a parallel interface.

    Regards,

    Michael W.

  • Hi Michael,

    There are two question.

    1. Is the "parallel video source" mentioned in the above reply the resource mentioned in the red circle of the attached picture? The picture information is the vg835 manual found on the Internet.

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    <p align="center"><b><font color="#FF0000" size="5">&nbsp;VG-835</font><font color="#FF0000" size="4"> Programmable</font></b><font color="#FF0000" size="4"><b> 
    Video Signal Generator</b></font></p>    
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    Output Supported Programmable Video Signal Generator</font></p>    
    <p align="left"><font face="Arial Unicode MS" color="#000080">LVDS digital 
    super-high-gradation 10-bit output<br>
    The new VG-835 is a programmable signal-generator that supports super-high 
    gradation LVDS output (RGB 10-bit each). Deeper graduation has been realized to 
    satisfy requirements for flat panel displays like PDPs where gradation is 
    growing and expanding to ultra-high-density.<br>
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    <font style="line-height: 13px" face="Arial Unicode MS" color="#666666" size="4">
    ・</font><font style="line-height: 13px" face="Arial Unicode MS" color="#cc0000" size="4">Features</font></p>    
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    <font color="#FF0000">・Wideband Clock range</font><br>
    Dot clock 20 - 180 MHz at LDVS 10bit output, 25 - 300MHz(dual link) at TMDS 8bit 
    output, supports a wide range and broodband.<br>
    <font color="#FF0000"><br>
    ・Range of output modes</font><br>
    The range of output modes includes; output 10bit data pattern via LDVS, output 
    8bit data pattern after affine transformed to 10bit, 10bit lamp pattern (1024 
    gradation), etc.<br>
    <br>
    <font color="#FF0000">・More functions by adding optional boards</font><br>
    By mounting an optional board the Video Signal Generator can support LDVS 4ch 
    output (8bit model) and a parallel 4ch output (8bit model). <br>
    * The number of boards that can be added is limited to one.<br>
    <br>
    <font color="#FF0000">・Data array program function</font><br>
    Allows a user to arbitrarily program an LVDS data array. A user can, in this 
    manner, cope with specifications requiring a test-object display device.<br>
    <br>
    <font color="#FF0000">・Ethernet adopted for outside interface</font><br>
    Ethernet and RS-232C have been adopted for external interface. By supporting 
    Ethernet, the signal generator is now capable of performing batch control of 
    multiple VG units.<br>
    <br>
    <font color="#FF0000">・Equipped with scroll and simple animation imaging 
    functions</font><br>
    Equipped with a 1-dot level horizontal and vertical display pattern scroll 
    function. It can also be used to store multiple animation images with respect to 
    resolution and display them by moving a display start coordinate control.<br>
    <br>
    <font color="#FF0000">・Editing via PC Card </font><br>
    An ATA compliant Compact Flash Card has been adopted as a recording medium. 
    Program Bitmap data editing can be saved directly to a PC without using VG.</font></p>    
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            Output specifications</font></td>
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              <font face="Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular" size="2">Dot 
              Clock Frequency / step</font></div>
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            <font face="Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular" size="2">DVI : 
            25 to 300MHz / 10KHz step<br>
            LVDS : 20 to 300MHz / 10KHz step<br>
            LVDS(10bit) : 20 to 180MHz / 10KHz step<br>
            Parallel : 100KHz to 300KHz / 10KHz step</font></td>
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              Horizontal timing Frequency<br>
              setting sccuracy</font></div>
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            <font face="Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular" size="2">Less 
            than 100MHz : 1 dot level<br>
            100 to 200MHz : 2 dot unit<br>
            200 to 300MHz : 4 dot unit</font></td>
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              Horizontal timing Frequency / dot</font></div>
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              Vertical timing Perpendicular<br>
              frequency / scanning line</font></div>
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            <font face="Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular" size="2">15.6 
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              Image memory / simultaneous<br>
              chromophores BitMap</font></div>
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            <font face="Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular" size="2">4k × 
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              Wind plane / character plane</font></div>
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            Window setinng with register - 1 of 16.770k colors</font></td>
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            output</font></td>
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            0.3 to 1.2V</font></td>
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              Parallel(output)</font></div>
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            2ch : 5 to 200MHz<br>
            4ch : 5 to 300MHz</font></td>
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              LVDS 4ch(output)</font></div>
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            20 to 85MHz<br>
            2ch : 40 to 170MHz<br>
            4ch : 80 to 300MHz<br>
            Devided picture drawing function(when 1/2,1/4 output)</font></td>
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              LDVS 10bit(2ch)</font></div>
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            <font face="Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular" size="2">1ch : 
            20 to 90MHz<br>
            2ch : 40 to 180MHz</font></td>
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            General specification</font></td>
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              voltage</font></div>
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              Power consumption</font></div>
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            MAX.130W</font></td>
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              Operetion temperature</font></div>
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            40℃</font></td>
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              Storage temperature</font></div>
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            <font face="Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular" size="2">-10 
            to 60℃</font></td>
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            <font face="Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular" size="2">30 to 
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              Dimensions</font></div>
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            430(W)×88(H)×350(D) (excluding projected parts)</font></td>
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              Weight</font></div>
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            Approx.8kg</font></td>
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    VG-870B_871B.pdf

    2. Because the vg835 has been discontinued, we found the vg870b to replace it. Please confirm the information in the attachment, that is, whether the vm1816 module of vg870b meets the test requirements of the development board serdes24-35usb.

    Best regards,

  • Hi,

    It seems that the VM-1816 is compatible with the DS90C241.

    Regards,

    Michael W.