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SN74LVC1T45 Max Data Rates versus Switching Characteristics

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Hello,

I am studying the SN74LVC1T45 to check if this component can be  the best choice in a new product, and I am quite confused about the information I read in the datasheet. For example if I use this buffer to operate both input and output ports to 3.3V,  I understand that the max data rates is 210 Mbps, which normally corresponds to a minimum bit duration of 4,76 ns. 

Now the switching characteristics give a maximum tplh to 5.8 ns and tphl to 5 ns. Both values normally define the tpd of the buffer. So how can I get a max data rate of 210 Mbps if the tpd is defined to max 5.8 ns?

By the way, on Texas Instrument internet page of the 74LVC1T45 (http://www.ti.com/product/sn74lvc1t45), Parametrics table indicates a max tpd of 3.9 ns, which I don't find in the component's datasheet. Is there another datasheet with this information?

Now how should I understand "max data rate" and "switching characteristics" ? I've read the application report "Understanding and Interpreting

Standard-Logic Data Sheets" (szza036b.pdf) but it did not really help me to clarify my mind.

Regarding my application, my main concern is to clearly control the propagation delay time of a synchronous bidirectional line which max data rate would be 50 Mbps. 

Thank you for any help,

Regards,

David

  • Hello David, 

    In the loosest terms - propogation delay is the time between when the signal changes on the input of the device and when that change is seen on the output of the device. Max data rate is the fastest signal that the device can handle. A device can have a very high propagation delay (delay between when the signal is seen on the input and passed to the output) but still be able to support a high data speed. 

    A common misconception about logic devices is that the maximum data-signaling rate is equal to the inverse of the propagation delay. The maximum data rate on buffers is dependent on several factors, such as propagation delay matching, input sensitivity, and output edge rates. A device can have a high maximum signaling rate if the propagation delays from low-to-high and high-to-low are matched, the input is fast enough to respond to the fast data rate, and the output edge rate does not interfere with the low and high-level steady states.

    From the example you give - 

    I understand that the max data rates is 210 Mbps, which normally corresponds to a minimum bit duration of 4,76 ns. 

    Now the switching characteristics give a maximum tplh to 5.8 ns and tphl to 5 ns. Both values normally define the tpd of the buffer. So how can I get a max data rate of 210 Mbps if the tpd is defined to max 5.8 ns?

    The tpd of 5.8ns indicates that any change on the input will be seen at the output at a maximum of 5.8ns later. It should have no impact on the 4.76ns bit duration.

    This device should be able to handle a 50Mbps signal.

     

     

     

     

  • Hello Hattie,

    Thank you very much for your answer. I've understood my error, and should only consider tpd as the time to propagate the input state to the output, independently of the high state and low state durations of my signal. 

    So in a good design implementation, and when propagation delays from low-to-high and high-to-low are matched, I should consider tpd as a constant value of the buffer which has no effect on the signal itself (ie. high state and low state durations), shouldn't I?

    Finally, do you know why the web site indicates a tpd max of 3.9 ns? 

     

    Regards,

    David

  • It looks like we took the 5V - 5V translation (best case) max  tpd values. Those boxes can be tricky to fill out since there is so much variation in application. Usually it's best case configuration for those datapoints.

  • Thank you very much for your help !