Hello, I don't know what the start time and end time of Tprooop and Toffset are here, and how this formula comes from, please advise, and draw a picture if it is convenient.
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Hello, I don't know what the start time and end time of Tprooop and Toffset are here, and how this formula comes from, please advise, and draw a picture if it is convenient.
Hello,
Toffset is showcased in this image:
From my understanding, Tprop is the time it takes a USS signal to travel from transmit to receive.
If you haven't already, please look at the MSP430 Ultrasonic Water Meter Academy.
Thank you,
Susan
Thanks Susan.
Did you mean that Tprop is the time from the 1st pulse sent to the nth lobe received, and Toffset is the time from when the ADC starts to acquire to the nth lobe received?
Tprop - Toffset is the time from the first pulse sent to the start of ADC acquisition, which should be a fixed period of time.
The customer thinks that if this is the case, the subtraction in the formula is meaningless, because this is a fixed value.
Could you please explain this?
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Thanks & Regards
Yale
Hello,
So the reason to subtract Toffset is that Toffset is the portion of the acquired waveform outside of the threshold for the wave lobe that the AbsTOF algorithm is locked on to.
If you look at this image form the MSP430 Ultrasonic Water Meter Academy:
The actual AbsTOF Algorithm only includes the waveform lobes that are greater than the threshold value (22% in the image). So the AbsTOF is only the portion of the waveform where the maximum points are between 22% and the peak.
Tprop is still the time the entire waveform takes to travel between one transducer to the other.
Thank you,
Susan
Susan,
Tprop is the time from the 1st pulse sent to the nth lobe received, and Toffset is the time from when the ADC starts to acquire to the nth lobe received
Shouldn't this be a fixed time? This is my customer's understanding, is it correct?
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Thanks & Regards
Yale
Tprop changes as speed of sound in the media changes, such as when water temperature varies. It cannot be expected to be a fixed time; the subtraction is not meaningless.
Hello,
Seth is correct. In addition, Toffset will change if the waveform changes or if the threshold value changes. None of these values are fixed.
Thank you,
Susan
What my customer means is that Tproop - Toffset coincides with the time when ADC is turned on and captured. This time(ADC is turned on and captured) is fixed, so Tprooop - Toffset is fixed.
This is the point we don't understand.
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Thanks & Regards,
Yale
Hello,
All of these variables are user adjustable, so if they aren't changed they should remain the same. Adjusting these values in the software should help calibrate the device. Is that what you are referring to?
Thank you,
Susan
Susan,
However, the absolute time of flight of ultrasonic wave in liquid may change with the change of temperature and density, so the absolute time of flight changes. But calculating the changing absolute time-of-flight with a fixed Tprooop - Toffset is contradictory. I can't understand the point here.
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Thanks & Regards
Yale
Hello,
Let me re-phrase myself. Tprop is fixed as it is configured as part of the meter configuration.
Toffset can be set by the user, but is also calculated by the algorithm.
Thank you,
Susan
Hi Susan,
That is to say, the user first sets an approximate value for Toffset, and then the algorithm adjusts Toffset according to the threshold (such as 10%), so as to obtain an accurate value and locate the first lobe, right?
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Thanks & Regards
Yale
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