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MSP-EXP430F5529LP: request advice how to minimize LP and get data to mobile

Part Number: MSP-EXP430F5529LP
Other Parts Discussed in Thread: MSP430F5510

Hi.

Is there a way to use the LP (and later minimize the design using only the few parts needed)

to get analogue values from sensors (e.g. temperature, conductivity, etc) into the LP, then use its ADC and get digital values via USB into a mobile?

Any advice appreciated, experts welcome, and if it exists please point me to it.

Thank you.

  • Hi ti4tst,

    Seems that your request is similar to some EVM that TI provide. We call them "BoosterPack". You can search "boosterpack" directly at ti.com for more information.
    You must have noticed the 40-pin headers on the LP. You can build up a board similar to the BoosterPack by leveraging the 40-pin header, using all the peripherals you want (such as ADC, timer, etc.).

    For the USB data transfer, we have a "back channel UART" on the LP, connected the UART with F5529's P4.4/P4.5 pins. Shown as below.

    You can use that for data transfer. And you can also find if you connect the LP to the PC, there will show up two serial port in your hardware management, shown as below. the Application UART1 is the back channel UART that could be used for data transfer. Sorry that I don't know much about mobile development, but my understanding is that all you need to do in your mobile phone is to call a similar API in PC for this COM port if your platform have.

    Let me know if this helps.

    Regards,

    Harry

  • This can be done by 5529 LP, and at the end, if size is important, board can be made with MSP430F5510. All MSP430 USB devices are with factory preloaded USB boot loader, so updating the code (without FET) is not a problem. For connection with android device check...

    http://www.ti.com/lit/an/slaa630/slaa630.pdf  (Android Applications With MSP430 USB on Mobile Devices)

  • Hi Harry,

    Thank you so much for your info-rich post.
    Will try to work with it after digesting it.

    After looking with magnifying glass at the LP and the accompanying pin layout card, I was unable (forgive the noob) to find P4.4/P4.5.
    However, for the LP, Windows 7 installed 8 drivers, incl the two by you depicted ports.

    Many thanks for your help (admittedly I will probably be back!) and best regards!
    :)
  • Hi zrno soli,

    Great tips, thank you. Will work through it (sorry, noob, i.e. slow).

    From your experience, do you think a device that holds input contacts, ADC, mini-usb (and perhaps battery) could altogether fit into a cylinder of ca 10-15mm diameter and 100-150mm length?

    Grateful for your help!
    :)
  • Here is 10 x 50 mm, with not perfect precision...


    I think there should be no any problems whit placing chip with components on few mm wider pcb. There are is also other, smaller package, for example QFN, but I never found that this help to final result because on LQFP package space under the chip can be used for routing, while with QFN is reserved for thermal pad.

    There are plenty of micros with USB hardware module, that can be used as USB device without  external precise clock source. Unfortunately, TI devices use external one, and by default 4/8/12/24 MHz are supported by factory bootloader, so pick one whit small footprint. Don't know about battery.

  • Thank you, zrno soli, this is a great example re space allocation.

    Re frequency, if I understand correctly, it is better to take 4 MHz, since that might be smaller and use less energy; however, if no precise clock is needed, then it might work without external clock?

    Again, thank you so much for letting me learn from your experience!
  • Hi,
    It seems your concern has been resolved, please help advise whether there is other issue? if not, I will close this thread, thanks a lot!
  • For using on chip USB hardware module, HF X2 is must. Check one that is used on TI LP boards, small package with integrated caps.
  • Please keep it open, I have a still many things to learn and ask. Thank you.
  • Thanks for the tip. I cannot find HF X2, where is that?
  •  TI use crystal with integrated caps and small footprint, connected between XT2 IN / OUT pins of MSP430 device.

  • If anyone has suggestions who could develop this device, please private message me or post the individual or company known for such developments here. Thank you.
  • Hi,

    you can find such service from other OEM platforms. now we think we could close this thread, thanks!

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