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DRV8303: FET Reverse Polarity Protection

Michael Bauer2
Prodigy 190 points
Part Number: DRV8303

Can the DRV 8303 be used to turn on a N Channel  FET with the source connect to power in and the the drain connected to PVDD od the DRV8303? I want to used the FET for reverse polarity protection. Can the trickle charge circuit turn on the FET channel and bypassed the substrate diode to reduce the voltage drop?

  • 0
    TI__Guru 63710 points

    Michael,

    Please show a schematic of what you are proposing. 

    We suggest a circuit like the following to most customers: http://www.ti.com/lit/ds/symlink/drv8343-q1.pdf Section "8.3.5.10 Reverse Supply Protection"

    Regards,

    -Adam

  • 0 in reply to Adam Sidelsky
    Prodigy 190 points

    Can the trickle charge circuit charge up the bootstrap cap when the source of the high side FET is

    connected to the input power. The driver chip will be powered though the  substrate diode until

    the channel is turned on. I will also probably add a 10K series gate resistor and the proposed

    transistor shutdown circuit.

  • 0 in reply to Michael Bauer2
    TI__Guru 63710 points

    Michael,

    The BST caps can only charge once the LS FETs turn on. Even if the GVDD supply which feeds the BST caps is active once the PVDD is up, the current path for charging the BST caps is dependent on the Switch node (SHx) goes low. 

    Why do you have "Power IN" marked on the SHA output above?

    Regards,

    -Adam

  • 0 in reply to Adam Sidelsky
    TI__Guru 63710 points

    Michael,

    I misunderstood previously. To clarify, no there is no way for the trickle charge pump to operate if power is applied to the HS Source. Power should not be applied here. 

    Regards,

    -Adam

  • 0 in reply to Adam Sidelsky
    Prodigy 190 points

    The POWER IN is the same as Vbat in DRV8343  8.3.5.10 Reverse Supply Protection. I know the bootstrap capacitor is normal  charge when the low side of the bridge is turned on, but there is a trickle charge circuit in the driver chip that can maintain gate power ever at 100% on time. My question is can the internal trickle charge circuit in the driver chip turn on the reverse polarity FET. The bootstrap capacitor could probably be much smaller or not needed at all. 

  • 0 in reply to Michael Bauer2
    TI__Guru 63710 points

    Michael,

    This is not the case, the power in is PVDD, not SHA. There is no method by which the Trickle charge pump can operate unless the PVDD supply is present.

    Regards,

    -Adam

  • 0 in reply to Adam Sidelsky
    Prodigy 190 points

    Adam

    When Vbat of the correct polarity is applied to the circuit, power will be applied to PVDD though the substrate diode of the reverse polarity protection FET. The SHA pin will also receive power and it will be one diode drop above the PVDD until the FET channel is turned on. When the FET is on SHA will be at the same potential PVDD, just like the high side FET in a half bridge configuration.

  • 0 in reply to Michael Bauer2
    TI__Guru 63710 points

    Michael,

    Looking at this again, I think I understand. You want to use only two phases, not a three-phase motor. You are asking if the phase A high-side FET can be used as the reverse polarity protection FET. This assumes you're not using the phase A low side. 

    If this is true and you use the circuit as you included previously, also reattached here, then this should work.

    If you do this, please GND the SL_A pin and keep the gate floating.

    Regards,

    -Adam

  • 0 in reply to Adam Sidelsky
    Prodigy 190 points

    I think I got it. Here is another view. 

    thanks or the help

    mike