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LM7480-Q1: Common source configuration questions

Part Number: LM7480-Q1
Other Parts Discussed in Thread: LM74900-Q1, LM74502-Q1

Hello,

We have the need for an input protection device that can tolerate the tests outlined in ISO21780 (As well as ISO16750 in a different configuration). Our device also needs inrush limiting, reverse polarity protection, low quiescent draw < 100uA, and AEC approval. The ISO test I am currently concerned with involves 70volts for 40ms. We also require to be fully operable @ 60v.

As this 70v test is above the recommended operating voltage for nearly all of the Ideal diode/ORing controller type devices I am looking at the common source configuration. Looking at the LM7480-Q1 datasheet, Figure 10-25 I wonder what the quiescent current draw at nominal 48volts Vbatt would be when the device is disabled EN/UVLO=0v. D1 would give some reverse leakage current. The draw through R1 to the VS pin, I imagine to be similar to common drain configuration ~3uA, is this assumption correct ? If operating with the switch in "OV Cut-Off" mode then R2 and R3 will provide >> 100uA draw. Is it not possible to use the internal switch between the VSNS and SW pins in common source configuration to remove the R2 and R3 current draw when disabled ?

What other devices in the "Ideal diode/ORing controllers" class support common source configuration ?

In this thread Praveen GD mentions an upcoming device "We do have a device which will be released in a couple of months which can work in CS topology and also has over current and short circuit protection." We have an NDA in place, can you share details of this device ?

Many thanks.

  • I am also suffering from the same error when using the Pspice model (LM74810-Q1) www.ti.com/.../snom681

    ERROR(ORPSIM-16306): Must be a two terminal device

  • Hi,

    Thanks for reaching out to us. Let me review your query and get back to you by tomorrow. 

  • Hi ,

    Yes, the shut down current (when the device is disabled, EN=Low) will be the same 3uA (typ) for 48V input. The current drawn by the IC will be the same for common drain or common source topology. 

    Yes, you can use the internal switch between VSNS and SW pins in common source topology. You will have to ensure that the voltage seen at the VSNS pin is within its Absolute Maximum Rating under all operating conditions. You can achieve this by adding an additional resistor between input voltage and VSNS as shown below. In the below configuration, R1, R2 and R3 will decide the OV threshold. 

    Yes, we have a new device releasing by mid-next month and it similar to LM74900-Q1 but can be used in common source topology. Let me reach out to you on email for further discussion on this device. 

  • Hi Praveen,

    Many thanks for the reply and email. While I am waiting for our legal dept. to forward me the NDA can you provide a list of the current protection ICs that support common source configuration ?

    Thanks.

  • Hi,

    LM7480-Q1 family of devices and LM74502-Q1 can support common source topology. LM74502-Q1 device does not block reverse current.